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In their defense, Microsoft hired a convention specialist to handle their booth. That company in turned hired some random integrator to supply and configure the Windows machines. Doug On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 12:41:26 -0500 (EST) > > From: Sean Donelan <[email protected]> > > Sender: [email protected] > > > > > > On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, John Payne wrote: > > > --On Sunday, February 8, 2004 10:46 PM +0000 Paul Vixie <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > There is nothing wrong with a user who thinks they should not have to know > > > > how to protect their computer from virus infections. > > > However, someone attending NANOG should at least have cleaned up slammer > > > before connecting to the wireless... > > > > I have never seen any evidence that security experts or network operators > > are any better at practicing security than any other user group. In every > > forum I've been at, the infection rates have been similar regardless of > > the attendees security experience. > > > > Sometimes the attendees know about the issue, but do not have the power > > to fix it, e.g. corporate IT deparment controls the laptop they are > > required to use. Other times, they are oblivious to the equipment being > > infected. > > > > I wouldn't be surprised if I went to a meeting at the Department of > > Homeland Security or NSA, their infection rates are similar. > > At a recent large (last 6 months) trade show, the show network saw a > bunch infected systems pop up at once. The problem was tracked (fairly > quickly) to machines brought up by a vendor in their booth that lacked a > number of recent Microsoft Windows Critical Updates. I can't say who the > vendor was, but they REALLY should have been the FIRST to install any > patches. > > If this happens, what hope do we have for "normal" users. > -- > R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer > Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) > Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) > E-mail: [email protected] Phone: +1 510 486-8634 >
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