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In message <[email protected]>, "Wayne E. Bouchard" writes: > >On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 12:41:26PM -0500, Sean Donelan wrote: >> >> On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, John Payne wrote: >> > --On Sunday, February 8, 2004 10:46 PM +0000 Paul Vixie <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > > There is nothing wrong with a user who thinks they should not have to kn >ow >> > > how to protect their computer from virus infections. >> > However, someone attending NANOG should at least have cleaned up slammer >> > before connecting to the wireless... >> >> I have never seen any evidence that security experts or network operators >> are any better at practicing security than any other user group. In every >> forum I've been at, the infection rates have been similar regardless of >> the attendees security experience. > >This is dramatically demonstrated by the number of NANOG attendees >that do not utilize encrypted paths to communicate back to their >offices and who do not maintain at least passable password standards >for their own accounts. It always astonishes me to see passwords such >as "asdfg", "microsoft", and "password" come up on that list. > Yah -- and you see that on telnets and snmp queries to live routers, on the nanog wireless net. That's *after* the demonstration that a few of us did last time... --Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb
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