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Re: AOL web troubles.. New AOL speedup seems to be a slowdown

  • From: The Gunn
  • Date: Sat Jan 31 16:32:01 2004

> your suggestion that they can add in no-cache
> is probably not something they want to do (nor
> would ISPs want that in view of the performance
> effect it would have on their cache hit rate)

Steve, perhaps you misinterpreted my posting, or missed the quote from JC
that I referenced at the bottom. If you re-read it, you'll see that I made
no such suggestion (and I did not even mention "no-cache" specifically,
only no-transform).

What I am saying is that a specific allegation made by another poster to
this list (quoted again below) has no basis because the HTTP spec provides
mechanisms for ensuring copyrighted material is not transformed or stored
by proxy networks.

I would never suggest to anyone to arbitrarily put a Cache-Control:
no-cache header on their content. Cacheing by ISPs is a great thing for
everyone and a content provider who uses no-cache is only costing
themselves money in bandwidth.

But, on the flip side, there are a myriad of situations that necessitate
the need to control the way in which content is cached or (more commonly)
compressed/transformed by a proxy; for example, high-res medical x-rays
and other confidential information, consumer purchased high-res images and
other copyrighted information purchased by the end user, or trademarked
logos.

For situations like these, I do think that it's important for content
providers to know they have the ability to directly limit what the caches
can do by reasonably implementing the appropriate Cache-Control headers.

~ The Gunn
[email protected]


> > AOL is copying and redistributing the image in a new format *without the
> > permission of the copyright holder* in a way that A) makes AOL money
and B)
> > removes protections that the copyright holder had placed on the image to
> > help keep third parties from reproducing the image without permission.
> >
> > and in doing so:
> >
> > IMHO they are infringing on the copyright of those who have placed the
> > digital watermark in the image.
> >
> > jc
>
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