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North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical Re: sniffer/promisc detector
> > i wish you were right. i wish you were even close to right. but we've been > attacked many times over the years by some extremely smart adolescent > psychopaths -- where adolescence is a state of mind in this case, rather > than of years -- and i wish very much that they would either stop being > so smart, or stop being so psychotic, or stop being so adolescent. Hmm. It depends of, what is _attack_. For example, if I have old, unpatched sshd daemon (which is easy to hack), but run it at port 30022, how long do I need to expose it on Internet to be hacked? (Answer - you will never be hacked, if you use nonstandard port, except if you attracks someone by name, such as _SSH-DAEMOn.Rich-Bank-Of-America.Com_. Yes, all mass attacks are doing by the damb hackers. All smart attacks was doing only because there was some, very attractive, purpose for this attack, known _out if band_. But I mentioned another thing. If (if) you have a real concern about information leakage, attack, etc, do not wait until it happen, but create false information, leak it and track it's usage. If you got scam message _I am paypal. Yopu are expired. Please, send us your credit cand and pin code_, do not ignore it - send some numbers _like real__ and track, who and how will try to use them., Etc etc. This is 'honeypot' - to make a picture of the bear, do not roam the whole forest, bring a honey, expose it to the bears and wait... PS. Sniffer... there are not any way to detect sniffer in the non-switched network, and there is not much use for sniffer in switched network, if this network is configured properly and is watched for the unusial events. > > > The real smart ones - professionals - won't attack unless there's a chance > > of a serious payback. This excludes most businesses, and makes anything > > but a well-known script-based attack a very remote possibility. > > that's just not so. ask me about it in person and i might tell you stories. > > > For most other people a trivial packet-filtering firewall, lack of > > Windoze, and a switch instead of a hub will do just fine. > > this part, i agree with. > -- > Paul Vixie
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