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Re: [nsp] Re: Per VLAN Stats on MSFC2 - Complaints from the Field

  • From: Anthony Cennami
  • Date: Thu Nov 20 18:54:20 2003


This too is a discussion argued a number of times previously. Personally, I prefer the architecture where one port belongs to one VLAN; this is obviously not appropriate in all situations, but it is in mine.

Nothing in this world is free, and the bandwidth that a customer uses across my network is not either, regardless if it's in between their own two servers. In instances where a customer has multiple machines which require communication between one another, it is held at the customers discretion to purchase a private switch and second NIC(s), so our billing system remains ignorant, or get billed for the traffic.

If you are someone who enjoys living dangerously, there are also a variety of Flow based accounting systems and Probes which would allow you to bill based on the flow/IP accounting, rather than SNMP on your access devices. This can be done either through your choice Layer 3 device or a third-party promiscuous probe.

I'm sure that everybody here has their own idea on best how to do this, and what is 'right' for them; my argument is only that falsifying data through propagation from multi layer switching does not at all seem to be the best way.



Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Anthony Cennami wrote:


If you want to bill accurately, bill off the Layer 2 ports; that's what
is always churning the traffic.  I've not looked at the accuracy on a
scientific level, but I've never found what I believed to be a serious
discrepency when billing/polling the physical ports.

What about the cases where the customer has more than 1 port on your
switch, you must then aggregate the traffic from N ports, discount the
data between the local hosts and only bill for the actual up/down from the
switch to the core, no?

That seems complex, of course perhaps only 1 port per customer makes some
sense in these cases too, eh?