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North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical stop the CC'ing Re: [Re: This may be stupid but.. ]
Hey folks, can you please stop the CC'ing of people that have responded to this thread. Just reply to NANOG. On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 11:36:50AM -0500, joshua sahala wrote: > "Peter Galbavy" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > A willingness, nay - a NEED, to learn and be open to new concepts is > > what forward moving technology sectors (like ours I hope) need. > > definately - however, i know of some very smart people, with a huge > drive to learn, were relegated to clueless tasks because they didn't have > many many years of experience. there is a distrubing trend amongst > managers/etc where they think that if you haven't already done the job > for several years, you can't learn to do it, or don't have the skill to > do it. i am not saying that this is universal (as demonstrated by > several posts here to that effect), but i think that these are exceptions > > > Acronyms mean sh*t. When involved in any hiring process, I actively > > avoid CCIE/MSCE/etc. laden resumes. Mentioning once, fine. Using them > > like religious phrases is an indictation of, well, stupidity. > > certifications are often necessary to open the door - granted if you > were architecting internetworks when many of today's certified > 'engineers' were still in grade school, then no, certifications are > probably not needed. > > experience is a catch-22, you need experience to get a job, but you need > a job to get experience. i am not saying that certifications are a > panacea, but lacking the ability to say that i built $major_isp, my certs > have helped me (a little) in getting past the recruiter/hr to where my > technical skills can be demonstrated > > > > i'm recruiter-proof. i'm not sure i'd want anyone who wasn't. > > > > Aye. I have *never* used my CV/Resume in getting a job. I still have > > one, but it's very out of date. > > never is a long time > > perhaps it is just the fact that i am 'new' to the field, but my resume > has gotten me all but one job, and my resume indirectly got me that one. > > my slightly bitter $0.02 > > /joshua > > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > "Walk with me through the Universe, > And along the way see how all of us are Connected. > Feast the eyes of your Soul, > On the Love that abounds. > In all places at once, seemingly endless, > Like your own existence." > - Stephen Hawking - > >
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