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Fw: [Full-Disclosure] Gates: 'You don't need perfect code' for good security

  • From: james
  • Date: Fri Oct 31 17:05:33 2003

One word.... HA !

james
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From: "Jeremiah Cornelius" <>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 11:32 AM
Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Gates: 'You don't need perfect code' for good security


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: FLAME ON!
: 
: http://www.itbusiness.ca/index.asp?theaction=61&sid=53897
: 
: "But there are two other techniques: one is called firewalling and the other 
: is called keeping the software up to date. None of these problems (viruses 
: and worms) happened to people who did either one of those things. If you had 
: your firewall set up the right way - and when I say firewall I include 
: scanning e-mail and scanning file transfer -- you wouldn't have had a 
: problem. But did we have the tools that made that easy and automatic and that 
: you could really audit that you had done it? No. Microsoft in particular and 
: the industry in general didn't have it."
: 
: "The second is just the updating thing. Anybody who kept their software up to 
: date didn't run into any of those problems, because the fixes preceded the 
: exploit. Now the times between when the vulnerability was published and when 
: somebody has exploited it, those have been going down, but in every case at 
: this stage we've had the fix out before the exploit. So next is making it 
: easy to do the updating, not for general features but just for the very few 
: critical security things, and then reducing the size of those patches, and 
: reducing the frequency of the patches, which gets you back to the code 
: quality issues. We have to bring these things to bear, and the very dramatic 
: things that we can do in the short term have to do with the firewalls and the 
: updating infrastructure. "
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