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North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical Re: ISPs' willingness to take action
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Joe Abley wrote: > > Most ISPs are relatively secure. Yes, occasionally a backbone > > router shows up on some list with a password of "cisco." The major > > problems are in the systems managed and installed on non-ISP networks > > (i.e. end-users). > > Maybe all the ISPs I've been involved with in the past ten years have > been exceptions, but there are only a small handful of them that I > would elevate to the status of "relatively secure". That's why I said relative. I didn't say they were very secure or had great security. But when out-running the bear you don't have to be faster than the bear, just faster than than the other guy. If you compared the "average" ISP security with the "average" end-user security, relatively speaking which would be more secure? Of course, we all have some relatives we'd prefer not to invite to holiday dinner. > My experience every time is that end users are amazingly tolerant of > breakage. The fact that there are popups all over the screen, or that > it takes five minutes to open their mail client, or that machines > freeze up every ten minutes and require a hard boot appear to be simply > accommodated as "that's what computers do". They are amazingly toloerant of "that's what computers do." They are amazingly intolorant when someone else "breaks" it.
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