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Whitelisting, AOL E.mail etc.

  • From: Robert Mathews
  • Date: Fri Oct 24 12:51:19 2003
  • Country: = United States of America =
  • Distribution: GENERAL
  • Verified-originator: Prof. Robert Mathews

All:

I have weighed the benefit of posting Vs. NOT posting this information to
NANOG.  I found that posting this note to the larger community was
important perhaps for two reasons.  They are:

1) The problems that we at the University of Hawai'i experienced from
10/17 - 10/20 with AOL, effected a fairly large userbase. Therefore, I am
inclined to believe that someone who is at least partially responsible for
the operation or managment of another network similar to our own - could
benefit from having this information (I know of at least 2 other large
University systems that were effected by the same issue).

2) Having the requisite AOL contact information in any event - might be
important toward at least partially achieving a resolve to future
problems.

Now, a brief recap.  Beginning the afternoon of the 17th (EDT), all E.mail
traffic from UH' namespace to AOL began to bounce.  This condition did not
resolve until the morning of the 20th (EDT).  Primarily, this was due to
AOL's whitelisting, and whitelisting policies.  Upon discovering this
problem, I began an inquiry into the condition.  We were informed that AOL
had received complaints from 'its members', who stated that our central
E.mail server was responsible for instances of spamming.

Subsequently, AOL personnel and I were able to hold a dialog over the
weekend to resolve pertinent issues regarding the matter.  I wish to give
praise the AOL Team, who responded quickly, and were both cooperative and
sincere with respect to their desire to resolve issues.  I MUST credit
Carl Hutzler, Dir. of AntiSpam Operations at AOL, and Charles Stiles,
Manager of the Postmaster-Team at AOL especially, for their commitment to
resolve this issue expediently.  Traffic exchange between AOL and us have
been re-established.

For your reference, I wish to present the following statement from Carl to
me, which may be helpful to you as well.

	"Anyone can request to receive the complaints that mail
	transmitted from their IP space generated via a Complaint Feedback
	Loop. All we need is:

	1. Address space (CIDR or otherwise)
	2. Abuse email address where you want them sent

	We will send them in realtime as we get them with the entire
	original spam included for your analysis. Feel free to have them
	send this data to me and/or our abuse phone number for now ..."

The relevant AOL contacts are as follows:

Carl Hutzler
Director, AntiSpam Operations
America Online Mail Operations
[email protected]
703.265.5521 work
703.915.6862 cell
Carl Hutzler <[email protected]>

or

Charles Stiles <[email protected]>
Manager, Postmaster-Team - AOL


All my best,
Robert.
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