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Re: Wired mag article on spammers playing traceroute games withtrojaned boxes

  • From: Sean Donelan
  • Date: Thu Oct 09 21:32:37 2003

On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Margie Arbon wrote:
> I am curious as to why open proxies, compromised hosts, trojans and
> routing games are not considered operational issues simply because
> the vehicle being discussed is spam.

Susan did not say it wasn't an operational issue.  She said there are
other lists which focus on that issue.

There are many subjects of interest to operators which occasionally
flare up on NANOG, but then move to other lists.  BIND issues concern
network operations, but a namedroppers list exists for the topic.
Peering is of operational interest, but the model-peer mailing list
exists for the topic. Network time synchronization if of interest to
operators but then the ntp newsgroup exists for the topic.  Network
security is of interest to operators, but then nsp security mailing
lists exists for the topic.  Address hijacking is of interest to
operators, but then the hijack mailing list exists for the topic.

Not every operators' forum must discuss spam.  There is a reason why
more than one mailing list or forum on different topics exist on the
Internet.

I now return you to your meta-discussion whether the topic is on topic
for a particular forum.  If you believe in zero tolorance, should the
forum moderator report us to our ISPs for network abuse and terminate
our Internet connection for discussion something the forum moderators
considers off topic?