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Re: what to do about joe-jobs?

  • From: Kee Hinckley
  • Date: Wed Sep 24 16:31:02 2003

At 2:07 PM -0500 9/24/03, Justin Shore wrote:
open proxy.  You're screwed if that's the case.  However since you have a
complete copy of the spam you can still follow the money trail.  Spammers
have to get their money somehow.  The actual spam will give you many
places to start.  Of course once you have that you still have to convince
With the possible exception of the new California law, I've yet to see any case in which the benefit from nailing a spammer (in terms of damages, or even reduced attacks) comes even close to covering the amount of time it took to find and pursue them. I doubt even the big ISPs recover their cost--their goal seems to be deterrence. However I'd be happy to donate somewhere.com's bogus inbound traffic (we bounced ten million messages last year, definitely looking at more than twenty million this year) to the cause.
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Kee Hinckley
http://www.messagefire.com/ Next Generation Spam Defense
http://commons.somewhere.com/buzz/ Writings on Technology and Society

I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to accept
responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate
everyone else's.