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RE: Detecting a non-existent domain

  • From: Kee Hinckley
  • Date: Tue Sep 23 20:18:57 2003

At 3:15 PM -0700 9/23/03, David Schwartz wrote:
How would you do this before? Does an A record for a hostname mean that a
host with that name exists? If so, then all *.com 'hosts' now 'exist'. If
not, what did you mean by exist before?
Okay, let's be very specific. I need to know if a given name has either A or MX records which are *not* the same as those provided by the a wildcard in the appropriate TLD.

The answer so far seems to be to query *.TLD, nab all the records, and then compare them all the results you get back from querying the domain. If there is anything that doesn't match, you are in the clear. (Modulo internal networks and localhost and all those fun tricks of course--but that's a different problem.)

The fact that this is a single IP comparison with Verisign today presumably does not preclude the wonders of MX records, CNAME's, multiple A records and all of that in the future.
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