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Re: Verisign Responds

  • From: Andy Walden
  • Date: Tue Sep 23 15:24:41 2003

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 [email protected] wrote:

> >
> > On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 [email protected] wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 [email protected] wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Dave Stewart wrote:
> > > > > > > Courts are likely to support the position that Verisign has control of .net
> > > > > > > and .com and can do pretty much anything they want with it.
> > > > > > ISC has made root-delegation-only the default behaviour in the new bind,
> > > > > > how about drafting up an RFC making it an absolute default requirement for
> > > > > > all DNS?
> > > > > 	That would be making a fundamental change to the DNS
> > > > > 	to make wildcards illegal anywhere. Is that what you
> > > > > 	want?
> > > > no it wouldnt. it would ust make wildcards illegal in top level domains,
> > > > not subdomains.
> > > 	really? and how would that work? (read be enforced...)
> >
> > Well yes thats part of the problem. It looks like verisign doesnt care
> > what anyone (ICANN, IAB, operators) thinks. But if we can mandate via RFC
> > it for dns software (servers, resolvers) etc. Then we go a ways to
> > removing verisign from the equation. Verisign can do what they like,
> > everyone will just ignore their hijacking.
> >
>
> 	lets try this again... why should a valid DNS protocol element
> 	be made illegal in some parts of the tree and not others?
> 	if its bad one place, why is it ok other places?
>
> --bill

Because of who is affected by the element. At the TLD level, many are
affected, at the domain level, then its a much smaller subset.

Ultimately, as Randy has already said, it is a business and social
problem. From a business standpoint, why should an organization be forced
to use its own resources to work around Verisign's plan to put more money
in its own packet.

>From a social aspect, since Verisign has grown to be one of the most hated
(a decidedly non-business adjective) and distrusted organizations
existing. It pisses people off that they have found an unfair advantage to
use resources in bad faith, to generate revenue from people's typos and
ignorance. It smacks of being unethical, underhanded, illegal, and
generally the opposite of generating revenue by providing a quality
service to your loyal customers.

The technical hacks are a testament to our culture and provide instance
gratification while the slower moving social and business issues are
worked it. They help to gratify the emotional need to generally do the
right thing.

andy
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