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"Stephen J. Wilcox" wrote: > On Sat, 23 Aug 2003, guy wrote: > > "J. Oquendo" wrote: > > > 'vuln'dev', and besides I wouldn't think that any > > > one here would do something malicious with any idea > > > that actually worked for the worse. Stunning innocence. I had to read this statement at least four times to be sure that I was not mistaken. Then I examined the headers, and I wonder if you (J. Oquendo) are being a bit disengenous. You may be well-meaning, but I cannot believe that anyone believes such a thing. > > Assuming that everyone subscribed to the list has the best of intentions, > > what about people that can scan the publicly accessible archives? Or even > > the search engines that have nanog archives indexed? There's nothing wrong > > with kicking ideas like this around with the intention of coming up with a > > strategy on how to combat them, but perhaps a more discreet forum would be > > appropriate? We have seen that many people *posting* do not have the best of intentions; I can assure you that there are lurkers on Nanog (surprise, surprise) who are not nearly as naive and well-intentioned as J. O. would hope. In fact, I know that there are subscribers from various print media, various on-line media, and certainly some stunningly unpleasant characters that I run into on other lists. There is no such thing as a discreet forum. If you mean by that, a few people exchanging emails, then surely that is not a forum, not being public. If it is publically accessible, and you aren't sure of precisely every member that's on it, then it's NOT discreet. It may be obscure, but I know plenty people who specialize in the obscure. > There are a lot more people subscribed to the list than you actually see > posting, I'm sure many of them are representatives of the l33t h4x0r community.. Those are hardly the persons you need worry about. There *is* no hacker community. There may be pockets here and there, with people of varying skills, and purposes, but there is no community. On the other hand, this is almost certainly not a topic for Nanog, even if the word BGP does appear in the original post. -- In April 1951, Galaxy published C.M. Kornbluth's "The Marching Morons". The intervening years have proven Kornbluth right. --Valdis Kletnieks
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