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Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions

  • From: Stephen J. Wilcox
  • Date: Thu Jul 31 14:23:47 2003

On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Petri Helenius wrote:

> > What we need is a new programming paradigm, capable of actually producing
> > secure (and, yes, reliable) software.  C and its progeny (and "program
> > now, test never" lifestyle) must go.  I'm afraid it'll take laws which
> > would actually make software makers to pay for bugs and security
> > vulnerabilities in shipped code to make such paradigm shift a reality.
> >
> Blaming the tools for the mistakes programmers make is like saying "guns kill people"
> when the truth is that people kill people with guns.
> Weve code running, where the core parts are C and has a track record better
> than the "utopian" five nines so many people mistakenly look for.
> However, since improvements are always welcome, please recommend tools which
> would allow us to progress "above and beyond" C and its deficencies.

We digress but..

Private deployment of software written in C is very different from a major 
public release, especially so when included with source code.