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Re: [Backbone Infrastructure and Secrecy]
On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, Joshua Sahala wrote: > > i think that that is the point of the article - mr gorman is 'the one' ;) > he mapped something that those who put it together hoped was unmappable. > now it seems that they are blaming their incompetance on his skills. > could his work be used to better our 'critical' infrastructure? sure. > could it be used to render it useless? probably. will it be used to > fix things? doubtful. The part that's striking to me, is that as usual, the folks in the industry don't know when their facilities are co-mingled, in part becuase that information simply isn't readily and easily available unless someone's willing to go out collect the small little bits and connect the dots... If that compartimentalization continues, then continginency planning just remains that much harder when no-one is in a position to make informed decisions. I seem to recall a certain baltimore tunnel fire badly affecting a number of carriers with supposedly diverse facilities, that had nothing to do with terrorism nor do virtually all other facilities based outages in the US, but the consumers (carriers in this case) would have been far better served by more information about what all was provisioned through that tunnel. > if the ministry of homeland secrecy sucedes in getting it classified, > it will sit in a locked buliding somewhere, while another enterprising > individual or group uses the same tools that mr gorman used...but whom > will they be showing it to? As usual, it's possible to do a huge disservice to local and state public agency planners, private enterprise and individuals by centralizing and obfiscating information on subjects of overriding public interest... Something the bush administration seems to have been extremely intent on in the previous two years. > /joshua > > Adam Kujawski <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > NANOG's Sean Gorman is in the news: > > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23689-2003Jul7.html > > > > I would find GIS like the one described *very* usefull in finding transport > > > providers. If I could see who has what where, I would know who to go to for > > > quotes. As it stands, most of this information is hard to get ahold of. > > > > Who, besides Sean, has maps like this? The state PUC? If so, is that > > information available to the public? Do you have to go thorugh a background > > > check and/or sign an NDA? Or is it only the providers themselves that have > the > > maps for this stuff? > > > > -Adam > > > > > > "Walk with me through the Universe, > And along the way see how all of us are Connected. > Feast the eyes of your Soul, > On the Love that abounds. > In all places at once, seemingly endless, > Like your own existence." > - Stephen Hawking - > > > -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joel Jaeggli Academic User Services [email protected] -- PGP Key Fingerprint: 1DE9 8FCA 51FB 4195 B42A 9C32 A30D 121E -- In Dr. Johnson's famous dictionary patriotism is defined as the last resort of the scoundrel. With all due respect to an enlightened but inferior lexicographer I beg to submit that it is the first. -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"