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RE: Direct allocations solutions

  • From: Richard Jimmerson
  • Date: Tue May 13 16:04:55 2003 
Hello Matt,

> Also, I would be interested to hear what ARIN has to say
> as I honestly have not contacted them about this yet, and 
> unfortunately decided to get the response from the public 
> first.

Policies for obtaining blocks of IP address space from ARIN
are defined by the community.  Detailed information about ARIN's 
Internet Resource Policy Evaluation Process is available at the 
following location.

  http://www.arin.net/policy/ipep.html

There have been proposals recently to make allocations
smaller than a /20 available to multi-homed organizations. 
Information about these proposals is available at:

  http://www.arin.net/policy/proposal_archive.html

The policy proposal discussions take place on ARIN's
Public Policy Mailing List (PPML) and at the bi-annual
ARIN Public Policy Meetings.  ARIN mailing list information 
(including archives) and information about upcoming ARIN 
meetings is available at the following locations.

  http://www.arin.net/mailing_lists/index.html

  http://www.arin.net/membership/meetings/index.html

Best Regards,

Richard Jimmerson
Director of Operations
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of     
> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 3:00 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Direct allocations solutions
> 
> 
> 
> I would like to hear the opinion of the group on solutions 
> for the ARIN 
> minimum /20 justification. In my opinion IP growth and the 
> demand for direct 
> allocations conflict each other.
> 
> My small business has a minimal number of hosts however that 
> is no reason I 
> shouldn't provide the highest level of service for myself and 
> my customers, 
> specifically solutions for single points of failure. Upon 
> multi-homing I 
> wished to purchase IP's directly from ARIN to minimize the 
> impact I might 
> experience if my primary provider (which controls my IP's) 
> might go under, 
> or for any other reason become unable to provide service. I 
> was obviously 
> unable to _truthfully_ justify so I slowly made an attempt to 
> increase my 
> real host count by no longer making a best effort to minimize 
> my IP usage. I 
> am a strong believe in helping for a cause, however without 
> lying, cheating, 
> or stealing how do multi-homed networks with only /22 
> utilization obtain the 
> benefits of a direct allocation?   I partially understand 
> ARIN's reasoning 
> and policies for not providing smaller blocks, and have been 
> reading about 
> portable blocks, however its obviously been a long standing 
> problem for 
> others in my position to find a solution without faking/inflating 
> justifications.
> 
> My primary solution is the idea of sharing a /20 with another 
> individual in 
> my similar position. This obviously has faults, however I 
> believe it is an 
> increased safety net from my current situation. Are there are 
> rules/policies 
> that would prohibit this? If not, why have I not seen "IP 
> Brokers/Resellers"?
> 
> To conclude, there has been a lot of talk on several mailing 
> lists about 
> quality vs. quantity of bandwidth, I personally am hosted on 
> cogent which 
> has provided the service I expected (taking into account the 
> price), however 
> the financial situation of several ISP's is critical, which 
> only emphasizes 
> the overall demand of stable IP blocks.
> 
> If the thread concludes IP blocks can be shared, I hope to 
> start some type 
> of IP broker mailing list or similar, to solve this problem 
> for others. If 
> anyone is interested in this or sharing an IP block please contact me 
> off-list.
> 
> Also, I would be interested to hear what ARIN has to say as I 
> honestly have 
> not contacted them about this yet, and unfortunately decided 
> to get the 
> response from the public first.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Matt
> 
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