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Re: Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of, was: Re: Looking to buy IPv4 addresses from class C swamp

  • From: Richard Irving
  • Date: Mon Apr 28 18:38:46 2003 
Temkin, David wrote:

What if Company A uses Iana-L space A, and Company uses Space A & B... What
then?

And don't say NAT - it's not the universal savior.

  Actually, in this exact case it is -=perfect=-, since we
are , by definition, only discussing
using this for -=direct=- connections...

If we were routing it via the internet,
 it would be in the tables, and a non-issue, eh ?

However, there are scads of IANA-L,
  switch to the obscure, rather than obvious...

  For example, the DOD reserved IANA space...

(Almost no one thinks to use that...)

However, I don't suggest the Multicast reserved space....
it behaves just a little differently....

   :P

.JMHO.
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Irving [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 6:18 PM
To: Temkin, David
Cc: 'Stephen Sprunk'; Daniel Golding; Kai Schlichting; North American Noise
and Off-topic Gripes
Subject: Re: Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of, was: Re: Looking
to buy IPv4 addresses from class C swamp


Temkin, David wrote:

And something else a lot of people tend to forget - just because space isn't in the tables doesn't mean it's not in use.
   True.
There are companies that connect to thousands of other companies (see the financial markets) that require unique addressing between companies with non-colliding address ranges. 10.x.x.x doesn't quite cut it.
    This is not an acceptable excuse to burn PI space.

There are plenty of other Iana-L available... try using an obscure one.




-DT

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Sprunk [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 6:01 PM
To: Daniel Golding; Kai Schlichting
Cc: North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes
Subject: Re: Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of, was: Re: Looking
to buy IPv4 addresses from class C swamp



Thus spake "Daniel Golding" <[email protected]>


ARIN needs to repo any space that has [not] been advertised for a
reasonable length of time, and reissue it.

So you're claiming that ARIN should revoke any allocations, including those made before it came into existence, simply because the addresses aren't in the global tables?

If that's the position of the community, that's a drastic change from assertions made in the IETF WGs and may affect address allocation guidelines and even some protocol work.

S

Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein
CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the
K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking


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