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> On Tue, 15 Apr 2003 [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 15 Apr 2003 [email protected] wrote: > > no .. you win! It isn't about winning or losing, but how you play the game :) > > > even where over-allocation is concerned you cant seriously expect folks to > > > renumber in order to give space back. renumbering has to be a no-no. > > > > Why not? > > you've not done this then i assume? I have, including once at breakneck speed, due to "circumstances" it isn't fun, much like writing reports, doing cost-analysis, and taking the garbage out aren't fun, but you do them anyways because they have to be done from time to time. > > what provider? a swamp /24 would have been allocated by InterNIC > > along with your single domain name. The domains, by virtue of a periodic > > reregistration process, are cleaned up. The swamp space isn't (yet). > > if its a direct allocation from arin then you have membership fees, if they > arent paid surely thats an indication theres a problem? > > if its some sort of pre-arin stuff then we've jumped off-thread. Perhaps it was me, but somewhere along the road the pre-ARIN /8s were brought into the mix, which opened up (to me) the entire swamp including 128/2 and the swampy bits of 192/3. > > > you have a slightly different point here, i agree. theres a number of legacy /8s > > > out there, they need fixing. i dont have any answers tho! > > > > As well as /16s, and /24s. A periodic communication of some kind is > > really needed to cull out the silent lost. Similarly those who are > > so far out of whack from the rest of us due to fortunate circumstance > > should be brought to something approaching in-line. > > hmm, if its dead then presumably you could achieve this by watching the routing > table over a period of a few months and considering blocks older than a couple > of years that are consistently not appearing to be dead and automatically > reusable maybe? I think some kind of contact method would be necessary. as others have and will point out, not all address space allocated under IANA is in/for use on the public Internet. > Steve
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