North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical Re: Dealing with ARIN.. my experiences & tips
On Tue, 15 Apr 2003 [email protected] wrote: > > > More importantly, a quick study in logic shows there should be no > > requirement for the existing space to meet RFC2050 requirements -- the space > > is already allocated. After the renumbering period there's no net damage to > > the IPv4 "shortage" since similar amounts of space would be assigned, but it > > would be a great help to the global routing system. > > The problem is that PA space is questionable. As you stated, if the only way > to do something one wants to do is to lie/cheat/steal/kill, many people > will do it. Can you quote an example of someone who was killed in the name of PA space? > Some of the "P" in the PA will break the rules in order to drive sales. > So, the inherent assumption that a provider is already compliant is > not a given, which strikes down the argument. > > I'ld advocate for mandatory compliance checking on each allocation > request or biannually, whichever is more frequent. Of course, > I'ld also advocate that it a provider is below 25% usage, that they > have address space rescinded, including blocks not presently assigned even where over-allocation is concerned you cant seriously expect folks to renumber in order to give space back. renumbering has to be a no-no. > to any RIR. If an entity can not be contacted for 2 compliance > periods (for example, a swamp /24 to some long-dead company) that they > be considered defunct, and the space rescinded. i assume dead space is recovered anyway? surely the provider isnt providing space and services to a company that is dead and not paying bills? > But, then again, I'm fairly liberal. I'm sure the more conservative liberal compared to stalin maybe ;p > among us (and those hanging onto former customer /24s, /8s, etc) > would absolutely hate this, since they are getting something for nothing > and don't like having to play by the same rules as the rest of us. you have a slightly different point here, i agree. theres a number of legacy /8s out there, they need fixing. i dont have any answers tho! Steve
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