North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical Re: Independent space from ARIN
Thats not _that_ large a turnover, $6m, and $2.3m for salaries isnt that big. Altho I wonder what the $1m of fringe benefits are! Not for profit simply means the company keeps hold of any profits it makes and reinvests/reduces fees as a result. It doesnt stop you paying senior staff large salaries tho as thats wages overhead not profit... Steve On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, Brian Johnson wrote: > > I thought ARIN was a not-for-profit organization. Like a co-op. > > I want a cut as I am an ARIN member. :-) > > - Brian J. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matthew S. Hallacy" <[email protected]> > To: "Richard A Steenbergen" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 9:01 PM > Subject: Re: Independent space from ARIN > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 02:21:01AM -0400, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > > > > > * Why do we have to pay very large sums of money ($2500+ per year at a > > > minimum) for this wonderful IP policing service. Where in the heck > does > > > all that money go? > > > > From http://www.arin.net/library/corp_docs/budget.html : > > > > Out of the $7,861,700.00 they raked in last year: > > > > SALARIES $2,326,653.85 > > FRINGE BENEFITS $1,045,063.15 > > HIRING COSTS $75,000.00 > > TRAVEL AND CONFERENCE $631,732.40 > > COMMUNICATIONS $236,699.62 > > COMPUTER $118,941.75 > > DEPRECIATION $445,750.00 > > RENT & OCCUPANCY $461,287.00 > > GENERAL OFFICE $192,400.00 > > LEGAL FEES $100,000.00 > > Legal Defense Fund $200,000.00 > > ICANN SUPPORT $188,480.00 > > Other Internet Support - Merit & ISOC $100,000.00 > > LACNIC SUPPORT $66,000.00 > > CONSULTING $184,000.00 > > Total $6,372,007.76 > > > > > > In other words, they're milking the cash cow. > > > > > * Why are we expected to continue the status quo of paying thousands of > > > dollars for addresses in IPv6? Without the threat of an artifical > > > shortage to "manage", what possible reason is there to justify ARIN's > > > existance or fees? Why do we all get the feeling IPv6 isn't an end to > > > the expenses, but rather a vast new market of registration and renewal > > > fees? > > > > Because the owners of the cash cow don't want it to go away. > > > > > -- > > > Richard A Steenbergen <[email protected]> > http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras > > > GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 > 2CBC) > > > > -- > > Matthew S. Hallacy FUBAR, LART, BOFH Certified > > http://www.poptix.net GPG public key 0x01938203 > > > > >
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