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RE: Seeking Advice: L2TPv3 vs. Martini Draft MPLS

  • From: McBurnett, Jim
  • Date: Fri Apr 04 13:23:12 2003

Mike,
I am not sure if this helps or not, or the # of VPN's, But have you considered
Cisco's GRE tunneling?
This will allow multi-protocol also..
Do a Search for DMVPN on the Cisco site..
This is a brand new feature...

Later,
Jim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Bernico [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 12:25 PM
> To: David Bigge; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Seeking Advice: L2TPv3 vs. Martini Draft MPLS
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for your advice David.  Your point is very well received.  
> 
> One of the design requirements for our VPN solution will be 
> the ability
> to allow customers to use non-IP protocols.  I don't think RFC2547bis
> will work for this.  However if we do go the MPLS route then 
> RFC2547bis
> will be available as a product as well as Layer 2 VPNs.  That's
> definitely a benefit.  
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Bigge [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 10:56 AM
> To: Mike Bernico; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Seeking Advice: L2TPv3 vs. Martini Draft MPLS
> 
> Mike,
> 
> An unsupported standard might as well not be a standard.  I would lean
> towards the most openly supported standard- MPLS.  Along with not
> letting
> one vendor bend you over the barrel, this openess also flushes out any
> problems for a more stable long-term network.
> 
> You don't talk about 2547bis VPNs.  Are you considering that also?
> 
> We use a competitor of Cisco's equipment so I am biased.
> 
> My 2 cent.
> 
> David
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Bernico" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 10:13 AM
> Subject: Seeking Advice: L2TPv3 vs. Martini Draft MPLS
> 
> 
> >
> > All,
> >
> > I'm currently comparing these two technologies in an effort 
> to offer a
> > Layer 2 VPN service on our backbone.  Our network is currently not
> MPLS
> > enabled. Below is what I perceive as the pros and cons of each
> > technology.  If anyone has thoughts on or experience with either one
> of
> > these protocols I'd like to hear your opinion.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > Martini VPN
> >
> > Pro
> > ----
> > Supports MPLS TE for each VPN, making it more PVCish
> > Enabling MPLS would open up the "MPLS tool box" for other services
> like
> > L3 VPNs and TE
> >
> >
> > Con
> > ---
> > Enabling MPLS is a huge change
> > Changing the forwarding paradigm in the network exposes us 
> to new and
> > interesting bugs and stability issues
> >
> >
> >
> > L2TPv3 VPN
> >
> > Pro
> > ---
> > Doesn't require MPLS/Much smaller change
> >
> >
> > Con
> > ----
> > Although standard, only supported by Cisco currently (I think)
> > Requires special tunneling card in GSR routers.
> >
> >
> 
>