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And I'd like to add I agree. The problems were wide at first, they have definitely dropped off. Everyone important, is reachable now it seems. I can think of maybe one or two small islands who might still be unreachable but hey if I lived in the troopics I'd be outside with an umbrella drink too, not changing filters. Bottom line is that the only way to fix this problem is to move in to the space, use the space, and contact people when its broken. Nanog although perhaps not the best place for this, has helped in this goal for me at least 4 or 5 times and its fixed for everyone not just me. With all of us pounding away the problems clear quickly. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard A Steenbergen" <[email protected]> To: "JC Dill" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 5:17 PM Subject: Re: Put part of Google on 69/8 (was Re: 69/8...this sucks) > > On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 04:44:11PM -0800, JC Dill wrote: > > > > Charles Sprickman wrote: > > > > >Seriously though, somewhere there is a popular site that is non-profit in > > >nature that would trade say a month of free access for the hassle of being > > >put into a widely-blocked block. > > > > The suggestion of putting Yahoo or Google on a 69/8 IP led me to this > > idea: > > > > Google could put their *beta* sites on a 69/8 IP, without causing them > > (Google) much Internet reachability/connectivity harm, and benefiting > > the Internet at large considerably. > > (Note to Mr. Dill, this is not intended to pick on you specifically, > it's just a convenient place to butt in) > > JESUS H CHRIST ENOUGH ALREADY... Please stop with the hairbrained ideas to > put random things in 69/8 space. These goals are mutually exclusive. You > can't put important stuff on broken IPs, and you can't fix broken IPs by > putting unimportant stuff on them. No one is going to move all of the root > servers to try and fix a couple outdated filters, and no one who is still > running outdated filters is going to notice it because they can't reach > Google beta sites. > > These are not just bad ideas, they are STUPID ideas. What happened to the > days when, before people posted to mailing lists, they thought "will this > make me look like an idiot in front of engineers across the entire > planet"? This is quickly not only becoming one of the most all-time > useless threads ever, but it is continuing to repell the useful people who > can no longer stand to read NANOG because of crap like this. > > Listen, I have space in 69/8, and it is NOT an epidemic. Back when 64/8 > was opened up it destroyed a beautiful 64/3 filter on unallocated space, > and yet somehow we all made it through just fine. The people who are > stupid enough to filter IPs without a plan on keeping those filters up to > date deserve their connectivity problems. Maybe next time they'll give > consideration to whether they actually need unallocated bogon filters on > every last linux server. :) > > -- > Richard A Steenbergen <[email protected]> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras > GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC) >
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