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Re: NOC contact for AS3908 (SuperNet Inc.)?

  • From: cowie
  • Date: Fri Jan 24 08:24:20 2003 
> Does anyone have a working NOC contact for SuperNet Inc., AS3908? Or if
> they are now perhaps owned by some other entity (All traces seems to end
> up in Qwest.net), who might that be, and how can we get in touch with
> them? 
> 
> The issue is that 3908 is incorrectly announcing five /24's and a /22
> with origin-AS 3908, out of a legacy class B belonging to one of our
> downstream customers in Norway (who use and announce the entire /16
> only), these incorrect more-specifics are obviously causing some
> connectivity issues for our downstream, but we have been unable to find
> a working NOC email or phone number for SuperNet.

I can't give you a NOC contact, but I can perhaps fill in some of the 
routing history of the situation.  

Using GRADUS (http://gradus.renesys.com), I identified the networks from 
your description (hopefully the right ones :), looked into the patterns of 
advertisement, and reconstructed the timeline (all times GMT).  

None of these blackholing more-specifics were being advertised before 
19th November 2002.  The sequencing of events suggests to me that all six 
networks "belong to" and are being managed by a single organization. 

Someone from BBN may be able to shed more light regarding the "ownership"
of the 157.237.137.0/24 subnet.   


19 Nov 2002 (19:12) 	

  First route. Genuity starts originating 157.237.137.0/24, and 
  continues to do so for 51 days.
				
22 Nov 2002 (18:11)	

   Supernet starts originating 157.237.200.0/22.

02 Dec 2002 (20:03)	

   Supernet starts advertising 157.237.141.0/24.

10 Jan 2003 (01:04)	
 
   Supernet starts originating 157.237.142.0/24.

10 Jan 2003 (17:00)	

   Genuity abruptly stops originating 157.237.137.0/24, leaving 
   them providerless. 
				
10 Jan 2003 (20:12)	

   Supernet takes over origination of 157.237.137.0/24 as well.
				
15 Jan 2003 (13:26)	

   Supernet starts originating 157.237.143.0/24 and 157.237.144.0/24 
   together.
				
20 Jan 2003 (23:34)	

   Your customer starts advertising the full legacy B space (157.237.0.0/16), 
   single-homed out of AS26797.  It has not been routable to this point.  
				
22 Jan 2003 (17:00)	

   AS2116 starts advertising the /16 as well.  SuperNet is now blackholing 
   your customer by advertising the six more-specifics.  


Good luck,  

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James Cowie
Renesys Corporation
http://gradus.renesys.com