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Re: Where is the edge of the Internet? Re: no ip forged-source-address

  • From: bdragon
  • Date: Thu Nov 07 14:13:34 2002

> > I'm opposed to some of the suggestions where to put source address
> > filters, especially placing them in "non-edge" locations.  E.g. requiring
> > address filters at US border crossings is a *bad* idea, worthy of an
> > official visit from the bad idea fairy.
> 
> What is bad about filtering facing non-customers, if loose rpf is
> used? I'm assuming this is what you mean by "border crossings" rather than
> the literal.
> 
> --------->makes sense on the edge/aggregation but if you do it further up in
> the network.....there maybe some cases where we have assymetric routing,
> where the path of uplink is never the path the same as the downlink, and
> infact the source network of the packet may never be present in the routing
> table....(it is possible, after all its a packet switched network and the
> routing is destination IP based) ...

Right, which is why I specifically mentioned loose rpf, vs. strict rpf.

Even further up the customer chain, you'll still have a list of customer
networks (assuming folks are doing the right thing by filtering customer
bgp announcements) which could be used as an input to strict rpf.