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wow, I hate spam/anti-spam conversations, BUT: On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Al Rowland wrote: > > Okay, I'm going to break my promise, > > Can anyone document more than one isolated instance, if that, of > spammers using North American Cyber Cafes? (This is NANOG) > > If so, wouldn't appropriate AUP with appropriate fines to the CC the > user used for access be a more appropriate sniper rifle shot rather than > just shot gunning all your users? > The problem most likely is that the complaints roll down days after said user spammed :( We see fallout from dial spammers normally hours after they start spamming. So, unless they have CC#->UserName->Time->ip all recorded at the cafe they aren't going to be able to 'fine' anyone :( I am NOT a proponent of a technical solution for spam because its just a escalating war of technology, but in this case perhaps there are some measures Hank can suggest to his customers to help solve this issue, or curb the abuse. Perhaps even a technical solution he can sell/manage for his customer and make some more money for his business? Managed Security Services, what a thought! :) > As far as 'loading' spam software, any Cyber Caf� that has the cpu out > where Joe User has access and/or hasn't set appropriate user rights > preventing software installation or system access, won't be in business > very long anyway. > Stupidity never stopped people from running a business :( > Best regards, > _________________________ > Alan Rowland > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Iljitsch van Beijnum > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 4:49 PM > To: Marshall Eubanks > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: How do you stop outgoing spam? > > > > On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > > > > Ok, suppose someone can touch type. The world record is something > > > like 600 key presses per minute, which is 10 41-byte TCP packets per > > > > second ~= 4 kbps. > > > When I go to Internet cafe's (I like Global Gossip), I connect my > > Ti-book to the local ethernet if at all possible (that's why I like > > Global Gossip) and use high bit rates (i.e., file transfers) in both > > direction. > > Would the uploads be HTTP? That's the only thing I'd want to limit to a > few kbps. (Well, and outgoing SMTP to 0 kbps.) > > > If I was limited to 4 kbps outbound, I would want my money back. > > > Just one customer viewpoint :) > > Understandable. On the other hand, spammers using internet cafes isn't > good either. > >
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