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Re: $400 million network upgrade for the Pentagon

  • From: Scott Granados
  • Date: Wed Aug 14 23:38:15 2002

Ok, let's make this operation l for one second.  This is something I've 
always wondered and I have an idea but...

What is the real possibility that there is some sort of structured 
monitoring system in place say on the backbone level.  Bad fbi meat 
eating programs asside I mean really something useful.  Can the nsa for 
example listen in somehow to  eering points or other such common areas 
and observe things that interest them?  I know the answer in the voice 
network is yes but that's technically easier.  On the ip network that 
would seem to be m uch more difficult.

On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, David Lesher 
wrote:

> 
> Unnamed Administration sources reported that Brad Knowles said:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 	I'm sure that they have all sorts of methods.  On the other hand, 
> > cellphones make devilishly difficult "bugs" to eliminate, 
> 
> 
> Not at all.
> 
> The entry guard says "No Cell Phones".. and [s]he has the gun.
> You can whine and pout but [s]he still has the gun.
> 
> THAT is how you solve that issue. No shield rooms needed.
> 
> I had some bozo try to bring his pagers into my [1] SCIF once.
> "But Man, I NEED my pagers.." {"I am SO important, in my eyes at
> least, that you can not strip me of my status symbols.."}
> 
> I offered that he could keep the pager-pieces after I smashed
> them.... and he decided he did not NEED them after all. They
> stayed in the unclass area on someone's desk, someone who could
> call me if they went off. They did not.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [1] I was the SCIF Security Officer; what a thankless role..
> 
>