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Yes, obscure places will feel the "pain" of their error more than others. Personally, I haven't seen this be a real problem. Eg, not a once a month major melt down type of an issue. john brown chagres technologies, inc On Mon, Aug 05, 2002 at 09:23:47PM -0500, jnull wrote: > > I usually don't play the "what if" game, as there will always be exception, but. > ... If the upstream provider is obscure, remote, or incompetent odds are their A > S path is equally obscure, remote, or incompetent. A subsection of the globe may > by holed until reasonable parties can be contacted. Advertising deaggragated ro > utes my be a viable temporary solution for misconfigurations--and other than a f > ew angelic engineers, no one would fault you--but malevolent configurations woul > d most certainly be /24. I believe a discussion once occurred here advocating BG > P authentication using some distributed source for AS verification, and while I > believe such a process is feasible, I advocate an open community in a heirarchic > al model to enforce good policy. > > HMM, I swear I had a point when I started... > > -- > sig=$header > > > Phil Rosenthal([email protected])@2002.08.05 21:00:55 +0000: > > > > But the question is, what do you do if it's coming from somewhere with a > > difficult to contact NOC, and their upstream is difficult to contact as > > well? > > > > --Phil > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John M. Brown [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 8:12 PM > > To: Phil Rosenthal > > Cc: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Deaggregating for emergency purposes > > > > > > Hmm, this would be a "Bad Idea" (TM) (C) 2002, DMCA Protected > > > > Having had this happen to me several different times, I'd have to > > recommend, calling the NOC of the advertising party. as the pref'd way > > of handling it. > > > > On Mon, Aug 05, 2002 at 06:41:22PM -0400, Phil Rosenthal wrote: > > > > > > I am currently announcing only my aggregate routes, but I have lately > > > thought about the possibility of someone mistakenly, or maliciously, > > > announcing more specifics from my space. The best solution for an > > > emergency response to that (that I can think of), is registering all > > > of the /24's that make up my network, so if someone should announce a > > > more-specific, I can always announce the most specific that would be > > > accepted (assuming they don't announce the /24's too, it should be a > > > problem avoided) > > > > > > Does anyone else have any other ideas on ways to quickly deal with > > > someone else announcing your more specifics, since contacting their > > > NOC is likely going to take a long time... > > > > > > --Phil > > > > > >
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