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RE: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking

  • From: Larry Rosenman
  • Date: Wed Jul 24 14:29:16 2002

Agreed here.  Has this even got a bill number yet? 



On Wed, 2002-07-24 at 13:15, Derek Samford wrote:
> 
> 
> I second that. If I see any of my clients having any sort of malicious
> activity directed at them, then there is no chance of me allowing their
> traffic through. I would be more than happy to send all their traffic to
> packet hell. Large corporations do not get any special consideration if
> it comes down to the stability of my network vs. receiving their
> traffic.
> 
> Derek
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> James Thomason
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 2:10 PM
> To: Marshall Eubanks
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking
> 
> 
> 
> Would malicious actions on the part of copyright holders violate the
> AUP of most networks?  Or are service providers more willing to tolerate
> denial of service attacks by large corporations than say, spam?
> 
> If this legislation is passed, they certainly will earn Null0 on mine.
> 
> Regards, 
> James Thomason
> 
> 
> On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Thought this would be considered on-topic as guess who would have
> > to clean up the resulting messes...
> > 
> > Regards
> > Marshall Eubanks
> > 
> > ----- Forwarded message from Declan McCullagh <[email protected]> -----
> > 
> > From: Declan McCullagh <[email protected]>
> > Subject: FC: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking
> > To: [email protected]
> > Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 20:29:35 -0400
> > X-URL: http://www.mccullagh.org/
> > X-URL: Politech is at http://www.politechbot.com/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > http://news.com.com/2100-1023-945923.html?tag=politech
> > 
> >     Could Hollywood hack your PC?
> >     By Declan McCullagh
> >     July 23, 2002, 4:45 PM PT
> > 
> >     WASHINGTON--Congress is about to consider an entertainment
> >     industry proposal that would authorize copyright holders to
> disable
> >     PCs used for illicit file trading.
> > 
> >     A draft bill seen by CNET News.com marks the boldest political
> effort
> >     to date by record labels and movie studios to disrupt peer-to-peer
> >     networks that they view as an increasingly dire threat to their
> bottom
> >     line.
> > 
> >     Sponsored by Reps. Howard Berman, D-Calif., and Howard Coble,
> R-N.C.,
> >     the measure would permit copyright holders to perform nearly
> unchecked
> >     electronic hacking if they have a "reasonable basis" to believe
> that
> >     piracy is taking place. Berman and Coble plan to introduce the
> 10-page
> >     bill this week.
> > 
> >     The legislation would immunize groups such as the Motion Picture
> >     Association of America and the Recording Industry Association of
> >     America from all state and federal laws if they disable, block or
> >     otherwise impair a "publicly accessible peer-to-peer network."
> > 
> >     Anyone whose computer was damaged in the process must receive the
> >     permission of the U.S. attorney general before filing a lawsuit,
> and a
> >     suit could be filed only if the actual monetary loss was more than
> >     $250.
> > 
> >     According to the draft, the attorney general must be given
> complete
> >     details about the "specific technologies the copyright holder
> intends
> >     to use to impair" the normal operation of the peer-to-peer
> network.
> >     Those details would remain secret and would not be divulged to the
> >     public.
> > 
> >     The draft bill doesn't specify what techniques, such as viruses,
> >     worms, denial-of-service attacks, or domain name hijacking, would
> be
> >     permissible. It does say that a copyright-hacker should not delete
> >     files, but it limits the right of anyone subject to an intrusion
> to
> >     sue if files are accidentally erased.
> > 
> >     [...]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
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> > ----- End forwarded message -----
> > 
> > -- 
> >                                   Regards
> >                                   Marshall Eubanks
> > 
> > 
> > 
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