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RE: CA Power

  • From: Brian
  • Date: Fri Jul 12 12:49:50 2002

yeah the scheduled and unscheduled maintenance thing is overwhelming for
sure, seems to happen far too frequently.  Someone asked why CA-ISO tellin
a particular operator to not operate a couple generators didnt trigger
news media hype, i wish I had the answer on that one.  NIMBY as a force
against building new plants is certainly a contributing factor also.
Everyone wants cheap plentiful power, but doesn't want to see any
evidence of its production or presence.  If you want to do your part
against what can only be called ridiculous utility practices, check out
http://www.ucan.org.

	Brian

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Rowland, Alan  D wrote:

>
> I'm a little late to this discussion but the first stage two alert (two days
> ago?) resulted from a large power plant going off-line for "unspecified
> reasons" to quote the spokesperson. Does make you go hmmm...
>
> -Al Rowland
>
> Just my 2�, feel free to use your delete key.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Hannigan [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 3:42 PM
> To: Gary E. Miller
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: CA Power
>
>
>
> At 03:03 PM 7/11/2002 -0700, Gary E. Miller wrote:
> >Yo Martin!
> >
> >If there is plenty of power in CA then howcum there was a "stage 2"
> >alert yesterday and a "market alert today"?  Today's "projected demand"
> >equaled "available resources" today  If demand played out as expected
> >there would have been big trouble in CA today.
>
> A lot of data surrounding the Enron collapse suggests that power traders
> artificially manipulated CA's power market, and also suggests that a lot of
> the
> previous summers warnings of power problems were also artificially created.
>
> All over the country, building of "extra" capacity has slowed. Some due to
> new sources that came online, some due to the fact that a decrease in power
> was realized as a result of the falloff in the economy.
>
> Could it be that CA is experiencing a normal surge in power utilization and
> the warning is part of a normal cycle?
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Martin Hannigan                    [email protected]
>