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On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 02:01:35AM +0200, Jeroen Massar wrote: > <flame> > Ah.. so everywhere you see 'text' and have to input 'text' is DOS? > Cool bash == DOS, shells are DOS. > > A thing like this: > 8<--------- > Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195] > (C) Copyright 1985-2000 Microsoft Corp. > > C:\> > --------->8 > is called a "Command Prompt" and has nothing to do with DOS. > Why doesn't anybody complain when it's on *ix boxes ? > It's shell everywhere then :) > Pardon me: Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] C:\>command /? Starts a new instance of the MS-DOS command interpreter. COMMAND [[drive:]path] [device] [/E:nnnnn] [/P] [/C string] [/MSG] [snip rest of output] Looks like it still claims to be the MS-DOS command interpreter to me, using the 'user friendly' name of 'Command Prompt' doesn't change what it is. [snip] > They didn't 'exploit' me yet in the last 3 years I am using the > development versions of the stack :) > And everything has bugs As soon as it's in use enough for an exploit to be useful, it will be. > </Flame> [snip links] Don't forget http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/techinfo/administration/ipv6/default.asp Which instructs you to go to a command prompt, like I said =) > > And as for your "it's difficult': > http://www.ipng.nl/index.php3?page=setup.html&forcepage=windows.html > Or the single line: "ipv6 adu 3/fec0::1" > > Interface 3 (site 1): Local Area Connection > uses Neighbor Discovery > link-level address: 00-d0-b7-8f-5d-42 > preferred address fec0::1, infinite/infinite > preferred address 3ffe:8114:2000:240:2d0:b7ff:fe8f:5d42, > 2591593s/604393s (addrconf) > > Tada ;) > Yes, this is too difficult for 'joe blow user', as I said. > I think the problem is reading the docs is difficult. > IPv6 will be/is autoconfig all the way fortunatly so those > 'native config' tools isn't going to be used by a lot of people. Users do not read documentation. > > Maybe also a nice tool for people saying "but IPv4 has a GUI on windows" > you might like to type 'netsh' ones in your "DOS" prompt ;) If a user can't point, click, and go, they're unlikely to do something, I've dealt with people that went over a month without their internet access simply because they were afraid they would have to troubleshoot their internet connection over the phone. > btw.. DOS == command.com, NT = cmd.exe, there *is* a difference. Yes, one is named command.com, one is named cmd.exe, it was easier than typing start <cmd> from the DOS command prompt. > Greets, > Jeroen -- Matthew S. Hallacy FUBAR, LART, BOFH Certified http://www.poptix.net GPG public key 0x01938203
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