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how would you guarantee connectivity? should each isp present should provide bandwidth as part of collocation expenses? should the opexes be included in the colo bill? and then - this would probably make the colo becoming a connectivity provider, wouldn't it? -- Tomas Daniska systems engineer Tronet Computer Networks Plynarenska 5, 829 75 Bratislava, Slovakia tel: +421 2 58224111, fax: +421 2 58224199 A transistor protected by a fast-acting fuse will protect the fuse by blowing first. > -----Original Message----- > From: Nipper, Arnold [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 6. j�na 2002 16:07 > To: Jan-Ahrent Czmok; Sabine Dolderer/Denic > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; > [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; > [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net server. > > > > As a lot of people are offering secondary services: may be > it's a good idea > to place infrastructural services at IXP. IXP seem to be more > stable than > any ISPs and often more neutral than ISPs. > > Comments? > > > Arnold > -- > Arnold Nipper, DE-CIX, the German Internet Exchange > email: [email protected] > mobile: +49 172 2650958 > handle: an6695-ripe > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sabine Dolderer/Denic" <[email protected]> > To: "Jan-Ahrent Czmok" <[email protected]> > Cc: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:43 AM > Subject: Re: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net server. > > > > Hello, > > DENIC runs currently several secondarys (not only DE but also for some > other TLDs) in different places worldwide. We are willing to offer > secondary service for other ccTLDs. But there will be because of > security/stability reasons a limit on the number of ccTLDs we > want to run > on a single machine. > > Sabine > > -- > Sabine Dolderer > DENIC eG > Wiesenh�ttenplatz 26 > D-60329 Frankfurt > > eMail: [email protected] > Fon: +49 69 27235 0 > Fax: +49 69 27235 235 > > > > Jan-Ahrent > Czmok An: Joao Luis Silva Damas > <[email protected]> > <[email protected] Kopie: [email protected]g.com, > [email protected], [email protected], > net> [email protected], > [email protected], > [email protected], > Gesendet von: [email protected], > [email protected] > [email protected] Thema: Re: KPNQwest > ns.eu.net > server. > ripe.net > > > 06.06.2002 > 01:29 > > > > > > > PostedDate: 06.06.2002 01:29:37 > $MessageID: <[email protected]> > From: [email protected] > SendTo: Joao Luis Silva Damas <[email protected]> > CopyTo: > [email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected] > et;[email protected] > ix.net;[email protected];[email protected];[email protected] > apnic.net > > Subject: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net server. > Received: from smtp.denic.de ([194.246.96.22]) by > notes.denic.de > (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.8) with ESMTP id > 2002060601283597:15602 > ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 01:28:35 +0200 > Received: from postman.ripe.net (postman.ripe.net [193.0.0.199]) by > smtp.denic.de with smtp id 17FkCg-0004uX-00; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 01:28:34 > +0200 > Received: (qmail 11455 invoked by alias); 5 Jun 2002 23:28:15 -0000 > Received: (qmail 11452 invoked by uid 66); 5 Jun 2002 23:28:15 -0000 > Delivered_To: [email protected] > PRINCIPAL: Jan-Ahrent Czmok <[email protected]> > In_Reply_To: <[email protected][193.0.1.81]> > References: <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> > <[email protected][193.0.1.81]> > Organization: Global Access Telecommunications Inc. > $Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.6claws16 (GTK+ 1.2.10; > i386-debian-linux-gnu) > X_Ncc_RegID: de.gatel > MIME_Version: 1.0 > Precedence: bulk > X_Loop_Detect: RIPE NCC > SMTPOriginator: [email protected] > RouteServers: CN=notes/O=Denic > RouteTimes: 06.06.2002 01:28:36-06.06.2002 01:28:38 > DeliveredDate: 06.06.2002 01:28:38 > DENICDOCOPENCOUNT: 1 > $MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on notes/Denic(Release > 5.0.8 |June 18, > 2001) at 06.06.2002 01:28:36;MIME-CD by Notes Client on Sabine > Dolderer/Denic(Release 5.0.6a |January 17, 2001) at 06.06.2002 > 09:32:28;MIME-CD complete at 06.06.2002 09:32:28 > BlindCopyTo: > WebSubject: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net server. > > > On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 01:08:46 +0200 > Joao Luis Silva Damas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > At 11:04 -0700 5/6/02, Randy Bush wrote: > > > > Given the current situation of KPNQwest and the possibility > > >> of its services going offline sometime soon, the RIPE NCC in > > >> agreement with KPNQwest will be temporally hosting this > > >> server (ns.eu.net) in its premises. > > > > > >nice emergency hack and sorry to whine. but i used them both > > >to get diversity. > > > > Hi Randy, > > > > there are 16 ccTLDs for which ns.ripe.net and ns.eu.net are both > > secondary. So we will definitely request those ccTLDs to look for a > > new host as soon as possible. > > Hi Randy, hi Joao, dear routing-wg, > > probably my Company (GATEL, AS13129) is able to host a secondary > server for the ccTLDs. > > The question is rather what are the hardware "requirements" for the > secondary > server. > > We have sufficient bandwidth capacity available and rack > space as well. > > > The rest can take bit more time to think what they want to do since > > ns.eu.net will keep running. > > Well done ! Congrats for the good ideas and coordination work. > > > > > We are offering secondary service on ns.ripe.net for any ccTLD that > > we weren't sencodaring for, as are other people. > > > > The idea is not to have ns.eu.net running for ever, just to enable > > people to have time to take rational decisions, without the fear of > > having the server going away because of some unexpected turn of > > events. > > > > > > > >when in less of a panic, please move it to moscow or something. > > > > Panic? what panic? this is just common sense > > > > right. it's not panic. > > --jan > > -- > Jan Ahrent Czmok - Senior Network Engineer - Access Networks > Global Access Telecommunications, Inc. - Stephanstr. 3 - > 60313 Frankfurt > voice: +49 69 299896-35 - fax: +49 69 299896-66 - email: > [email protected] > > > > >
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