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As are f5 proeducts including bigip, 3dns and hmmm they make something else I forget:). On Thu, 23 May 2002, Brian wrote: > bsd kernel eh? i believe netapp filers are based on that as well. > > Bri > > > > On Thu, 23 May 2002, Anthony D Cennami wrote: > > > > > "Not to say you can't route well with a linux or bsd system you can but > > at the high-end probably not as well." > > > > Tell that to Juniper. > > > > > > > > Scott Granados wrote: > > > Remember that a pc may have some certain functions that are "more > > > powerful" than a router but a pc is a much more general computer. > > > Routers are supposed to be and usually designed to do one thing only, > > > route, not play quake, balance your check book, browse the net, etc etc. > > > So although for example a gsr-12000 may hhave a slower cpu than the > > > machine on your desk it probably will route and pass more traffic than > > > your pc ever will because of its design. Not to say you can't route > > > well with a linux or bsd system you can but at the high-end probably not > > > as well. > > > > > > On Thu, 23 May 2002, Vinny Abello wrote: > > > > > > > > >>I would have to say for any Linux/BSD platform to be a viable routing > > >>solution, you have to eliminate all moving parts or as much as possible, > > >>ie. no hard drives because hard drives will fail. Not much you can do about > > >>the cooling fans in various parts of the machine though which routers also > > >>tend to have. Solid state storage would be the way to go as far as what the > > >>OS is installed on. You have to have something to imitate flash on the > > >>common router. Otherwise, if you can get the functionality out of a PC, I > > >>say go for it! The processing power of a modern PC is far beyond any router > > >>I can think of. I suppose it would just be a matter of how efficient your > > >>kernel, TCP/IP stack and routing daemon would be at that point. :) > > >> > > >>At 10:48 PM 5/22/2002, you wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>>On Wed, 22 May 2002, Andy Dills wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>>>From the number of personal replies I got about these topics, it seems > > >>>>>like many people are interested in sharing information about how to do > > >>>>>routing on a budget, or how to avoid getting shot in the foot with your > > >>>>>Cisco box. > > >>>> > > >>>>Routing on a budget? Dude, you can buy a 7200 for $2 grand. Why bother > > >>>>with a linux box? Heh, at least use FreeBSD :) > > >>> > > >>>Before the dot com implosion, they weren't nearly that inexpensive. The > > >>>average corporate user will also need smartnet (what's that on a 7200, a K > > >>>or a few per year?) for support, warranty, and software updates. Some > > >>>people just don't appreciate being nickled and dimed by cisco and forced > > >>>to either buy much more router than they need, or risk ending up with > > >>>another cisco boat anchor router when the platform they chose can no > > >>>longer do the job in the limited memory config supported. > > >>> > > >>>I have a consulting customer who, against my strong recommendation, bought > > >>>a non-cisco router to multihome with. It's PC based, runs Linux, and with > > >>>the exception of the gated BGP issue that bit everyone running gated a few > > >>>months ago, has worked just fine. It's not as easy to work with in most > > >>>cases, but there are some definite advantages, and some things that Linux > > >>>actually makes easier. They'd initially bought a 2621 when multihoming > > >>>was just a thought, and by the time it was a reality, 64mb on a 2621 > > >>>couldn't handle full routes. The C&W/PSI depeering (which did affect > > >>>this customer, as they were single homed to C&W at the time and did > > >>>regular business with networks single homed to PSI) was proof that without > > >>>full routes, you're not really multihomed. > > >>> > > >>>-- > > >>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> Jon Lewis *[email protected]*| I route > > >>> System Administrator | therefore you are > > >>> Atlantic Net | > > >>>_________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________ > > >> > > >> > > >>Vinny Abello > > >>Network Engineer > > >>Server Management > > >>[email protected] > > >>(973)300-9211 x 125 > > >>(973)940-6125 (Direct) > > >> > > >>Tellurian Networks - The Ultimate Internet Connection > > >>http://www.tellurian.com (888)TELLURIAN > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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