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North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical Re: Certification or College degrees?
> > On Wed, 22 May 2002, Stephen Sprunk wrote: > > > Thus spake "Nigel Clarke" <[email protected]> > > > Certifications are a waste of time. You'd be better off > > > obtaining a Computer Science degree and focusing on the > > > core technologies. > > > > If you're looking to write software, sure. A CompSci degree won't help you > > in the slightest at operating networks. > > Stephen - I bet I can do networks much much better than most cisco CCIEs, > even after years of doing network-unrelated work :) That's because I > understand _why_ the stuff is working, not only how to make cisco box to > jump through hoops. Yes, but after you'll read a few books when you start working as a network engineer again (if -:)). CCIE just come and say _gays, you need Cisco XXX with IOS YY.YY and configure CEF, RED, packet inspection, bla bla bla... and he remember exact IOS commands. If people want a narrow edicated engineer, they need CCIE-only gay. If they weant someone who can do everything (may be, with extra time to learn specific piece of hardware) - they need someone like Vadim. And CCIE is not a good example - it's the BEST certification degree I ever know; other certifications are much worst - most of them are just _guess an answer_ tests. Of course, knowing _top change a domain, you need to reinstall the system_ (from some old MS exam) is very important one (because no one can guess an answer). Btw, a friend of mine, very (VERY) high skilled gay, is looking for the new job today. When I told about him with someone, I always explain _he worked with MS and CISCO for a 10 years; he teach Microsoft in Moscow, he designed a networks, he worked as a PS for a 2 years, he bring Ascends into the Russia, he know Everything about MS and Cisco. Oh, you need his credentials - btw, he is CCIE and MS certified engineer. I never start from certificates, because they say nothing except _gay can read a books and can learn to answer a questions_. (Do you need jobless CCIE + MS certified _do not remember who_? You can hire one just now).
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