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Re: ratios

  • From: Stephen Griffin
  • Date: Sat May 11 16:00:09 2002

In the referenced message, Dean S Moran said:
> 
> Plus, wtf is this clause about announcing 5000 routes?  What a crock of
> s**t!  This really encourages aggregation, doesn't it?

It would be more responsible if they had a minimum number of
"fully aggregated (by origin-as) routes"

This would, hopefully, prevent folks from merely deaggregating to meet
the number. Hopefully, that number would be significantly less than 5000.

Some time back, I look a look at all routes with origin as701, and came up
with:
2165 total routes
1846 routes after removing more-specifics (not even going the extra step
     to aggregate what was left)
319 pointless more-specifics (same origin, so no additional path information)
14% of routes originated by as701 are entirely chaff

I emailed uunet, asking why it was they were leaking all these wasted
routes at me, but didn't get a response.

I took a look at 3561 based upon that same snapshot and see:
342 total routes originated by 3561
324 routes after removing more-specifics (not even going the extra step
     to aggregate what was left)
18 pointless more-specifics (same origin, so no additional path information)
5% of routes originated by as3561 are entirely chaff

so, as3561 appears to be less sloppy, but if their policy is
worded "minimum of X routes", it definately encourages sloppiness.