North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical Re: IP renumbering timeframe
Hmmm, maybe my experience with Arin is differnet but it wasn't all that difficult for me. I received a /19 initial allocation and never had to use upstream space at all!!! It took a little more paperwork and perhaps my case was unique but it was quite painless. Scott On Mon, 6 May 2002, Grant A. Kirkwood wrote: > > On Monday 06 May 2002 10:00 am, Ralph Doncaster wrote: > > > What others have told you here is correct: when you terminated your > > > contract with Cogent [any contract language nonwithstanding] you gave > > > up your "right" to use any portion of their address space. > > > > > > As one person on here already pointed out, this is a good thing. Think > > > about it. > > > > What it tells me is I should have wasted enough space to consume 8 /24s > > long ago, so I could get a /20 directly from ARIN. I assign IPs to > > customers very conservatively. Multiple DSL customers with static IPs > > are put on a shared subnet instead of one subnet per customer. I easily > > could have used 8 /24's a year ago and still conformed to ARIN rules. At > > the time I was only using 3 /24's. We recently reached 8 /24s and > > applied to ARIN a few weeks ago for a /20, but it sounds like the best > > thing to do is to use IPs in the most inefficient way possible (while > > still conforming to ARIN policy) in order to quickly qualify for PI > > space. > > > > -Ralph > > <rant> > > I'm sorry, but ARIN's policy practically _encourages_ the "efficient > wasting" of space to qualify for PI space. This is one of the most > frustrating things to deal with. What's a startup ISP/MSP/ASP-type to do? > You want PI space for the benefit of your customers (for obvious reasons), > but ARIN requires that you start with an upstream's space. So you generate > B.S. justification for 8 /24s, slap a zillion IPs on some dumb 386 > somewhere, then request PI space from ARIN. Then two years later your > upstream ISP realizes you don't need the space anymore, then MAYBE assigns > it elsewhere. > > This just seems counter-productive to me. There really should be a vehicle > for these types of situations. > > Grant > >
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