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North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical RE: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT?
That would come under the heading of a virus or trojan I believe. And sure there is no reason a NAT'd cell phone couldnt participate in this type of attack. The DDOS discussion is specifically referring to a "live" syn or syn/ack attack from hosts that respond to connection requests. A NAT'd cell phone wont, cant ever, respond to an unsolicited connection request. jm > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary E. Miller [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:00 AM > To: Mansey, Jon > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: RE: DDOS attacks and Large ISPs doing NAT? > > > Yo Jon! > > On Thu, 2 May 2002, Mansey, Jon wrote: > > > To merge these 2 great threads, it is the case is it not > that NAT is a > > great way to avoid DDOS problems. I don't even want to imagine what > > the billing/credit issues would be like if your always-on > phone with a > > real IP is used as a zombie in a DDOS. "Hey I didn't use all that > > traffic last month....etc etc" > > Who says a NATed host can not be a zombie? Get the NATed > host to read an email virus. The virus then coonects to an > IRC channel that tells the zombie when to spew. > > Each phone would not spew much, but imagine you got 100M > phones to do your DDoS for you... > > RGDS > GARY > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------- > Gary E. Miller Rellim 20340 Empire Blvd, Suite E-3, Bend, OR 97701 > [email protected] Tel:+1(541)382-8588 Fax: +1(541)382-8676 > >
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