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North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical Re: bulk email
On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 11:53:58AM +0100, James Cronin wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm working on a bulk (opt in!) email delivery system at the moment, > and over the years I've heard a number of possibly apocryphal > stories about people requiring contracts with large email suppliers > (Hotmail, AOL, Yahoo, MSN etc..) in order to be able to guarantee > delivery and lower the risk of email that's been requested by an > end user being mistakenly blackholed or treated as spam by their > ISP (or webmail provider). > > Has anyone ever actually come across such a contract in real life > or are they just urban myths? The contracts... for most of them are urban myth. Perhaps not for all, and since my NDA has now expired, I can say publically that I was involved with Earthlink (just after the Mindspring merger) considering whether they would need this sort of contract in some circumstances (and, more directly what I was involved with, the inverse - contracts for bulk suppliers who were not spammers, laying out what they needed to do to not get smacked with the AUP). I have also, recently, had problems with BellSouth's servers rejecting legitimate mailing list emails to at least one user; it is not clear whether the volume is the cause, but since the server in question isn't on any of the open-relay lists, and is getting a 550 "anti-spam"ish error message, while other servers can reach the same user perfectly well... (Note: the lists in question follow all of the relevant RFCs, including those for List-Id headers, Precedence headers, etc.) -- *************************************************************************** Joel Baker System Administrator - lightbearer.com [email protected] http://users.lightbearer.com/lucifer/
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