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To me, that looks more like an outage (now fixed) on a customer network. The 'loop' between 500.Serial2-11.GW4.BWI1.ALTER.NET and core62007-gw.customer.alter.net, could likely be caused by UU's customer advertising an aggregate route to UU, but not actually having a route to the IP...so they default back to UU, and UU sends it back to the customer. This was likely a problem on the customer's network, so why should UUNet take a trouble report from you? Not only are you not _the_ customer, you're not even a customer, and it's likely not a problem they can do anything about. If it really were a UUNet problem, they probably assume their customer will report it. > | 37 | 50 | 65.195.230.217 | 500.Serial2-11.GW4.BWI1.ALTER.NET > | Baltimore, MD, USA | -05:00 | 161 | -x | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 38 | 60 | 65.195.230.218 | core62007-gw.customer.alter.net > | - | | 210 | --x | UUNET On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Bradley Corner wrote: > I tried to notify UUNET at their 800-900-0241 number that there was a > loop in their network. They told me that if I didn�t have an account > with them they were not interested in any information that I may have > had for them. I stated that I was just calling so that they could pass > the information onto an engineer. He repeated himself saying if you do > not have an account with us I will not do anything with the information. > I guess they think they run the internet and us small ISPs couldn�t > possibly know anything... > > > In case someone at UUNET reads this here is the traceroute. > > > ================================================== > === VisualRoute report on 12-Apr-02 3:04:18 PM === > ================================================== > > Report for online.mmsi-usa.com [162.33.138.132] > > Analysis: The routing loop (65.195.230.218 / 162.33.130.4 / > 162.33.128.249 / 205.197.182.201 / 162.33.138.129 / 65.195.230.217) > starting in > hops 12-17 is not allowing IP packets to get to their destination. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----------------------------- > | Hop | %Loss | IP Address | Node Name > | Location | Tzone | ms | Graph | Network > | > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----------------------------- > | 0 | | 10.100.15.40 | BRADLEY.nefmls.com > | ... | | | | (private use) > | > | 1 | | 209.12.49.1 | - > | ?Jacksonville, FL 32256 | | 1 | x | Northeast > Florida MLS | > | 2 | | 206.222.124.121 | - > | ?Herndon, VA 20165 | | 3 | x | e.spire > Communications, Inc. | > | 3 | | 206.222.126.77 | washing2-dc-a5-0-0-10.rt.espire.net > | - | | 27 | x-- | e.spire > Communications, Inc. | > | 4 | | 206.222.127.118 | reston-va-1-pos0-0-0.rt.espire.net > | - | | 37 | x--- | e.spire > Communications, Inc. | > | 5 | | 198.32.187.97 | mae-east-level3.com > | Vienna, VA, USA | | 133 | --x- | Exchange Point > Blocks | > | 6 | | 64.159.18.98 | ae0-54.mp2.Washington1.Level3.net > | Washington, DC, USA | -05:00 | 137 | -x--- | Level 3 > Communications, Inc. | > | 7 | | 64.159.0.110 | so-0-0-0.mp1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net > | Philadelphia, PA, USA | -05:00 | 147 | -x------ | Level 3 > Communications, Inc. | > | 8 | | 64.159.0.150 | > gige9-0.hsipaccess2.Philadelphia1.Level3.net | Philadelphia, PA, USA | > -05:00 | 137 | -x---- | Level 3 Communications, Inc. | > | 9 | | 63.208.101.158 | unknown.Level3.net > | - | | 147 | -x------- | Level 3 > Communications, Inc. | > | 10 | | 162.33.162.25 | 401n--30th-st--phily.coretel.net > | ?Annapolis, MD 21401 | | 139 | --x---- | Core > Communications, Inc. | > | 11 | 10 | 162.33.162.29 | baltamtrak-p.highway.coretel.net > | ?Annapolis, MD 21401 | | 146 | -x------ | Core > Communications, Inc. | > | 12 | | 65.195.230.218 | core62007-gw.customer.alter.net > | - | | 142 | -x---- | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 13 | | 162.33.130.4 | i97.toad.net > | ?Woodbridge, NJ 07095 | | 124 | --x-- | RAM > Communications Consultants, Inc. | > | 14 | | 162.33.128.249 | tiara-2-balto.ds1.toad.net > | ?Woodbridge, NJ 07095 | | 134 | -x---- | RAM > Communications Consultants, Inc. | > | 15 | | 205.197.182.201 | max2.toad.net > | ?Severna Park, MD 21146 | | 146 | -x-- | ToadNet, Inc. > | > | 16 | | 162.33.138.129 | mmsi-cpe.dsllan.toad.net > | ?Woodbridge, NJ 07095 | | 198 | -x--- | RAM > Communications Consultants, Inc. | > | 17 | 50 | 65.195.230.217 | 500.Serial2-11.GW4.BWI1.ALTER.NET > | Baltimore, MD, USA | -05:00 | 147 | x-- | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 18 | 50 | 65.195.230.218 | core62007-gw.customer.alter.net > | - | | 154 | -x---- | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 19 | 50 | 65.195.230.217 | 500.Serial2-11.GW4.BWI1.ALTER.NET > | Baltimore, MD, USA | -05:00 | 154 | -x-- | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 20 | 50 | 65.195.230.218 | core62007-gw.customer.alter.net > | - | | 170 | --x--- | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 21 | 50 | 65.195.230.217 | 500.Serial2-11.GW4.BWI1.ALTER.NET > | Baltimore, MD, USA | -05:00 | 131 | -x-- | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 22 | 50 | 65.195.230.218 | core62007-gw.customer.alter.net > | - | | 150 | -x--- | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 23 | 50 | 65.195.230.217 | 500.Serial2-11.GW4.BWI1.ALTER.NET > | Baltimore, MD, USA | -05:00 | 159 | -x- | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 24 | 50 | 65.195.230.218 | core62007-gw.customer.alter.net > | - | | 171 | -x--- | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 25 | 50 | 65.195.230.217 | 500.Serial2-11.GW4.BWI1.ALTER.NET > | Baltimore, MD, USA | -05:00 | 169 | -x- | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 26 | 50 | 65.195.230.218 | core62007-gw.customer.alter.net > | - | | 188 | -x---- | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 27 | 50 | 65.195.230.217 | 500.Serial2-11.GW4.BWI1.ALTER.NET > | Baltimore, MD, USA | -05:00 | 169 | x-- | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 28 | 50 | 65.195.230.218 | core62007-gw.customer.alter.net > | - | | 191 | x----- | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 29 | 50 | 65.195.230.217 | 500.Serial2-11.GW4.BWI1.ALTER.NET > | Baltimore, MD, USA | -05:00 | 179 | x--- | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 30 | 50 | 65.195.230.218 | core62007-gw.customer.alter.net > | - | | 188 | -x---- | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 31 | 50 | 65.195.230.217 | 500.Serial2-11.GW4.BWI1.ALTER.NET > | Baltimore, MD, USA | -05:00 | 179 | -x-- | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 32 | 50 | 65.195.230.218 | core62007-gw.customer.alter.net > | - | | 163 | x | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 33 | 50 | 65.195.230.217 | 500.Serial2-11.GW4.BWI1.ALTER.NET > | Baltimore, MD, USA | -05:00 | 184 | -x- | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 34 | 50 | 65.195.230.218 | core62007-gw.customer.alter.net > | - | | 168 | -x | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 35 | 50 | 65.195.230.217 | 500.Serial2-11.GW4.BWI1.ALTER.NET > | Baltimore, MD, USA | -05:00 | 166 | -x | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 36 | 50 | 65.195.230.218 | core62007-gw.customer.alter.net > | - | | 185 | -x- | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 37 | 50 | 65.195.230.217 | 500.Serial2-11.GW4.BWI1.ALTER.NET > | Baltimore, MD, USA | -05:00 | 161 | -x | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 38 | 60 | 65.195.230.218 | core62007-gw.customer.alter.net > | - | | 210 | --x | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 39 | 50 | 65.195.230.217 | 500.Serial2-11.GW4.BWI1.ALTER.NET > | Baltimore, MD, USA | -05:00 | 152 | -x | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 40 | 50 | 65.195.230.218 | core62007-gw.customer.alter.net > | - | | 167 | -x | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 41 | 50 | 65.195.230.217 | 500.Serial2-11.GW4.BWI1.ALTER.NET > | Baltimore, MD, USA | -05:00 | 176 | -x | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 42 | 60 | 65.195.230.218 | core62007-gw.customer.alter.net > | - | | 164 | x | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 43 | 50 | 65.195.230.217 | 500.Serial2-11.GW4.BWI1.ALTER.NET > | Baltimore, MD, USA | -05:00 | 173 | x | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 44 | 50 | 65.195.230.218 | core62007-gw.customer.alter.net > | - | | 158 | -x | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 45 | 50 | 65.195.230.217 | 500.Serial2-11.GW4.BWI1.ALTER.NET > | Baltimore, MD, USA | -05:00 | 168 | x | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 46 | 50 | 65.195.230.218 | core62007-gw.customer.alter.net > | - | | 166 | x | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 47 | 50 | 65.195.230.217 | 500.Serial2-11.GW4.BWI1.ALTER.NET > | Baltimore, MD, USA | -05:00 | 159 | x | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 48 | 60 | 65.195.230.218 | core62007-gw.customer.alter.net > | - | | 140 | x- | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 49 | 60 | 65.195.230.217 | 500.Serial2-11.GW4.BWI1.ALTER.NET > | Baltimore, MD, USA | -05:00 | 145 | x- | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 50 | 60 | 65.195.230.218 | core62007-gw.customer.alter.net > | - | | 170 | -x | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 51 | 70 | 65.195.230.217 | 500.Serial2-11.GW4.BWI1.ALTER.NET > | Baltimore, MD, USA | -05:00 | 137 | x- | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 52 | 60 | 65.195.230.218 | core62007-gw.customer.alter.net > | - | | 133 | x- | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 53 | 60 | 65.195.230.217 | 500.Serial2-11.GW4.BWI1.ALTER.NET > | Baltimore, MD, USA | -05:00 | 142 | x- | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 54 | 60 | 65.195.230.218 | core62007-gw.customer.alter.net > | - | | 147 | x- | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 55 | 60 | 65.195.230.217 | 500.Serial2-11.GW4.BWI1.ALTER.NET > | Baltimore, MD, USA | -05:00 | 143 | x- | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 56 | 60 | 65.195.230.218 | core62007-gw.customer.alter.net > | - | | 156 | -x | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 57 | 60 | 65.195.230.217 | 500.Serial2-11.GW4.BWI1.ALTER.NET > | Baltimore, MD, USA | -05:00 | 167 | -x | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 58 | 60 | 65.195.230.218 | core62007-gw.customer.alter.net > | - | | 167 | -x | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 59 | 60 | 65.195.230.217 | 500.Serial2-11.GW4.BWI1.ALTER.NET > | Baltimore, MD, USA | -05:00 | 170 | -x | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 60 | 60 | 65.195.230.218 | core62007-gw.customer.alter.net > | - | | 174 | -x | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 61 | 70 | 65.195.230.217 | 500.Serial2-11.GW4.BWI1.ALTER.NET > | Baltimore, MD, USA | -05:00 | 173 | -x | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 62 | 60 | 65.195.230.218 | core62007-gw.customer.alter.net > | - | | 178 | -x | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 63 | 60 | 65.195.230.217 | 500.Serial2-11.GW4.BWI1.ALTER.NET > | Baltimore, MD, USA | -05:00 | 186 | -x | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | 64 | 60 | 65.195.230.218 | core62007-gw.customer.alter.net > | - | | 183 | x- | UUNET > Technologies, Inc. | > | ... | | | > | | | | | > | > | ? | | 162.33.138.132 | online.mmsi-usa.com > | ?Woodbridge, NJ 07095 | | | | RAM > Communications Consultants, Inc. | > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----------------------------- > Roundtrip time to 65.195.230.218, average = 183ms, min = 152ms, max = > 210ms -- 12-Apr-02 3:04:18 PM > > Bradley Corner > Northeast Florida Multiple Listing Service, Inc. > 7801 Deecreek Club Rd Ste 1 > Jacksonville FL 32217 > (904) 394-9494 > > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis *[email protected]*| I route System Administrator | therefore you are Atlantic Net | _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________
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