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On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 11:53:05AM -0800, Paul A Vixie wrote: > ok, so how do you handle a situation like orbs/abovenet as in late 1999? I don't have the AUP's in question so my speculation is going to be tainted. I would probably have told them that I would continue announcing their route (with the known hole) and prepended the heck out of it to cause people to deprefer that prefix. Additionally, I might have added a new community 6461:foo and registered that info in the IRR saying that 6461:foo means that some customer is being abusive and you're protecting the Internet from them. The point, I guess, is you're AUP wasn't propagated. You can only enforce the AUP with your direct customer. > (c) block traffic > to/from the /24 in question after carefully notifying the /16 owner that > this would be done and why. This causes the least problems to your direct customer. I can understand, from a business perspective, how this was the preferred option. However, it punished those who used your routes and wanted <no-value-judgement> to reach ORBS </no-value-judgement> and rewarded your customer for lax AUP. > as we all know, (c) was chosen. great was the hue and even greater the cry. > a recommendation was even made that if as6461 wasn't going to carry the whole > /16 that it ought to chop it up and only advertise the parts it could reach, > in spite of what these more-specifics would have done to the /16 owner's own > routing policy (they were multihomed.) > > what would YOU have done? justify your answer. (show all work.) I've noted my preferred solution (equivalent to the DON'T PREFER ME community proposed some time ago). I also noted my opinions on this a while back in the "How does one make not playing nice with each other scale? (Was: net.terrorism)" thread. I'm asking/suggesting: Is this just a business issue? Given the way the routing system works today are we going to see a lot more blackholes in the system? Does the routing protocol need to be adjusted to deal with this business need or should the AUP deal with it? -- Jeff Haas NextHop Technologies
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