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Re: whois syntax

  • From: bmanning
  • Date: Sat Oct 20 21:07:51 2001

	NIH?  birthdays for whois & SQL please.


> 
> A well-defined and widely implemented query language to large volumes of
> data organized into tables does, in fact, exist.
> 
> It is called SQL.
> 
> I guess all that whois silliness is an acute case of NIH syndrome.
> 
> --vadim
> 
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Joe Abley wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 01:53:04PM +0200, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
> > > On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, Joe Abley wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > There is no standard specified in the RFC for output, just for query
> > > > > language.
> > > 
> > > > Is RFC954 a standard in any real sense? Seems to me that the RFC2026
> > > > designation for that document would be "Historic", although RFC954 is
> > > > old enough that it is not labelled with a maturity level.
> > > 
> > > Well, the process is standardizes is so simple and flexible there
> > > obviously hasn't been any need to change the past 16 years:
> > 
> > The original comment was that the *query language* is standardised.
> > RFC954 digresses beyond the trivial protocol you mentioned to specify
> > lookup behaviour which is, in practice, entirely implementation-specific.
> > 
> > > > production *IR/IRR/registry/registrar whois servers is (a) that they
> > > > all let you look stuff up, and (b) they all listen on 43/tcp.
> > > 
> > > Isn't trying to standardize the output of whois servers is like trying to
> > > standardize the output of HTTP servers? Since this output is for human
> > > consumtion (well, after HTML parsing in the case of HTTP) standardizing
> > > has very few benefits.
> > 
> > s/Since/If/
> > 
> > Scripts consume the output of whois servers, too. Ask [email protected]$isp
> > (and witness the energy that went into RIPE-181 and later RPSL to
> > make the results of queries parsable).
> > 
> > 
> > Joe
> > 
>