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Re: The Gorgon's Knot. Was: Re: Verio Peering Question

  • From: E.B. Dreger
  • Date: Fri Sep 28 19:39:23 2001

> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 23:53:45 +0100
> From: Alex Bligh <[email protected]>
> > Instead you get the revolving wheel of excuses like
> you missed:
> 4. We are not paid to accept this crap

So your downstreams pay you to connect to:

+ Your AS only;

+ Some of the Internet, but with little concern re accessibility
  of small networks;

+ The whole Internet with as much reliability as possible?

Oh, man, this is starting to sound like a peering policy
argument, in which some people believe that Internet traffic is
theoretically beneficial to both endpoints[1].  Or the reciprocal
compensation arguments that traffic is more beneficial to one

[1] #include <exceptions-mentioned-by-paul-vixie.h>

I'm not arguing against filtering -- in and of itself, filtering
is good.  There's enough bad BGP and IGP-to-EGP leakage that I'd
be worried if everyone allowed /32 announcements.  But there's a
limit at the other end, too:

Maybe I'll filter anything longer than a /8... I'll also legally
my name to "!U" (pronounced "the network admin formerly known as
'Eddy Dreger') at the same time.


Brotsman & Dreger, Inc. - EverQuick Internet Division
Phone: +1 (316) 794-8922 Wichita/(Inter)national
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