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Re: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting

  • From: measl
  • Date: Wed Aug 15 21:41:09 2001

On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Steven J. Sobol wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 [email protected] wrote:
> > > > and *will NOT* filter for users. As for filtering on IPs, I do that as
> > > > well, mostly for ORBS/MAPS/Micro$oft like domains.
> > > 
> > > Gee, you don't work for, huh J?
> > 
> > What?  Who is "J", and why would you care if s/he works for MFN?
> > 
> Unless I'm reading incorrectly (which is possible), you were representing
> yourself as an MFN admin and then in another message you said you didn't
> work for them.
> If I misread, I apologize! 

OK, I get it... Nobody "works" per se at MFN: it's 100% volunteer.   I
work for an NSP in order to eat...

MFN has been around since early 1994, with a several week lapse in
registration serveral years ago, so I well remember the original
discussion of MAPS and its bretheren.  MFN was, at my urging, one of, if
not the first adopter of MAPS in the St. Louis area.  It is only with the
20-20 hindsight that I can see what a terrible idea these services

J.A. Terranson
[email protected]

If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
first place...