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RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting

  • From: Vivien M.
  • Date: Tue Aug 14 00:21:27 2001

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of
> [email protected]
> Sent: August 14, 2001 12:10 AM
> To: Randy Bush
> Cc: Mitch Halmu; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Randy Bush wrote:
> > >> you could be right.  i guess it's time i sent them another donation.
> > > Save it: the people MAPS has harmed neet it more.
> >
> > support low-life, slimeball, spammers?  ROFL!
> No, I'm not talking about the spammers who were caught in maps, I'm
> referring to the INNOCENTS who were caught in MAPS.  If the LEO community
> acted like MAPS does, there would have been armed revolution in the
> streets *years ago*.

The INNOCENTS caught in MAPS were usually affiliated with someone guilty in
some way in another; eg would Mitch's customers be considered innocent
victims of MAPS, even though their victimness is directly due to their
decision to do business with someone who is guilty?

> MAPS never gave a shit about facts, they cared only about their agenda -
> no matter who got hurt in the way.

Funny, I could say the same about you:
"You never gave a s**t about facts, you cared only about your agenda -
no matter who got spammed in the way".

> Fuckem.  Vixie is a netnazi who would do us all a favor if he just blew
> what little brains he has left out of his left ear.

Vixie's done a lot of things other than MAPS that have done a lot of good;
BIND, anyone? I'm sure there are a bunch of others but exposure to such
stupidity as your post has caused my mind to go blank.

BTW, if I replaced "Vixie" with "You and Mitch" in that sentence, I think it
might reflect the opinion of "us all" a bit better, because lots of us don't
seem to mind his existence.

Vivien M.
[email protected]
Assistant System Administrator
Dynamic DNS Network Services