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----- Original Message ----- From: "Roeland Meyer" <[email protected]> To: "'Wojtek Zlobicki'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 10:20 PM Subject: RE: The Death of TCP/IP > > From: Wojtek Zlobicki [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 3:09 PM > > > > <RANT> > > > > Nothing other than anti-Microsoft propaganda. You cannot > > blame Microsoft > > for high market share. > > But you can blame them for making Vbasic available to every email message > that wants to rape your system. Boy, what a brain-fart that was. It still > stinks. Repeat after me; nothing in an email message should be executable > without express and very deliberate operator intervention. Agreed, BUT .... as stated by Cringley himself, Microsoft tailors their software to the populus. Wow a software company listening to its users, what a travesty. > > The main reason that *Nix hosts are generally more > > resilient to these type of worms is that it is less likely for a non > > informed administrator to administer a *Nix sever. > > False. A very large portion of the *nux machines are in this sad condition. False, many popular exploits (such as those with BIND) are fixed/patched much faster. Now a really scarry worm would be one that exploits Apache. I used *NIX and not Linux for a reason. Many UNIX boxes are much better secured. Joe Sixpack that installs his favourite distro of Linux is just as vulnerable as a windows users. I will give you the fact that there are still many unsecure/unpatched boxes in both worlds. It all comes down to the poor management of Internet connected devices. I am really encouraged by the new option of auto installing updates in Windows XP. It is sad that such a well publicized worm/bug is spreading so far (it made the front page of the National Post here in Canada). > > > If everyone that had a > > IIS box available on the big I, installed all related > > patches, worms like Code Red would never propagate very far. > > Sure they would, you'd just never notice it. A *real* programmer would have > started CodeRed out at the current Level III version. > > > Raw socket support in NOT a bad thing. I wonder if Robert > > Cringely and Steve Gibson are friends. > > Now here, we agree. > > > "Say goodbye to TCP/IP and to anonymous connections of any > > kind. Hello to > > Hailstorm, tracking everything down to the last mile, and a more > > business-friendly Internet with prioritized packet-handling. " > > I've just been looking at Hailstorm, it sucks. Think "totalitarianism". > Think, re-enforcment of monopoly position. > > > </RANT> > > > > I really encourage anyone with a tough skin, and looking for > > a good laugh to > > read this article. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Robert Hough" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 12:23 AM > > Subject: The Death of TCP/IP > > > > > > > > > > Felt like sharing this most amusing article that I discovered in my > > > Inbox this morning: > > > > > > http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010802.html > > > > > > -- > > > Robert Hough ([email protected]) > > > >
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