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MAPS changes (was RE: trapdoor.merit.edu and other...etc)
> Yes, you can lookup contact information for IP blocks. However, we all > know how up-to-date that is, and the person listed there may or may not > be involved with the mail server. The spammers seem to think its OK. Seems like anti-spammers could give it a try. > If there had been a notice here, would you have been as unhappy? Remember > this was a free service. If I decided I could no longer make chess endgame > databases available for free, I would not feel inclined to look up everyone > who had been using them and notify them. At first cut, I could not agree more. But at second and third thought when I realized that just yanking the thing would have, you might say, unanticipated consequences, I would try to find a way of (think of imploding a building) firing the trigger without having it fall in on me. > As I recall, the first modifications to use RBL in sendmail were done > elsewhere, eventually a link was included on the sendmail site, and then > it was part of the configuration. We are sort of minimalist when it comes to modifying mainstream code, so I betting we got it of the box and plugged it. But that would have been on my watch, and I don't remember for sure. > I can see you are bitter about the impact on your mailservers. I am not > happy about the way it was done as well, but assuming it was malacious > seems excessive. I don't think bitter is right--and I did in fact get wind of this in the anti-spam community several weeks ago so we had actually pulled the code out last week, I think. I'm just really tired of the cult-of-personality stuff. Lots of us are just trying to keep our tiny corner of the world running for reasons that do not glorify bits and bit-fiddlers against a growing tide of bad guys. Having trouble telling who is on your side and who isn't does not enhance the experience. And if I can figure out what IP addresses to block, I will try to ensure that we are not now part of their problem--self imposed it might be.