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Re: Advanced Countermeasures to prevent a Ddos

  • From: Christopher L. Morrow
  • Date: Fri Jul 20 00:34:53 2001 
On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Hank Nussbacher wrote:

> 
> At 16:38 19/07/01 -0400, you wrote:
> 
> It all hinges on your upstream ISPs.  The things to ask for are:
> 
> - SYN and ICMP rate limiting:  If you buy a T3 from your upstream, you 
> should ask that they place on *their* peering routers and on the router 
> facing you, Cisco rate limits of about 512kb/sec of ICMP and about 
> 128kb/sec of SYNs.  Pay extra if need be.

This means I only need a modem to synflood your network out of order.
Rate-limits are only worthwhile for 'well behaved' flows, DoS is by
definition NOT well-behaved.