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I happen to agree, if only because; when script kiddies don't have IRC to play with they'll start looking elsewhere. I'd rather them have an IRC net to play with while they're being hunted. Wouldn't you? > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Francis [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 7:24 PM > To: Richard A. Steenbergen > Cc: Ariel Biener; [email protected] > Subject: Re: DDoS attacks > > > On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 07:40:45PM -0400, Richard A. > Steenbergen exclaimed: > > Hrm you may have an idea there. Since so many attacks are related to > > EFNet, and there are so many possible reasons for it to be > impacting the > > rest of the internet, I propose we introduce a new ICMP > type, ICMP EFNet. > > This message type could be used to convey all kinds of important > > information about why things are broken, for example: > > > > ICMP EFNet code 1 - Smurfing > > ICMP EFNet code 2 - SYN Flooding > > ICMP EFNet code 3 - Channel takeover > > ICMP EFNet code 4 - Warring botnets > > ICMP EFNet code 5 - Dianora > > > > and many other useful messages. > > regardless of one's opinion on the usefulness/validity/point > of IRC, I think > some respect is due EFnet simply considering the antiquity of > the network, and > the sheer volume of communication, good bad and indifferent, > that has flowed > over it since its inception. I'm sure I'll be flamed for my > (mis)use of > 'antiquity', but I think IRC has been, and continues to be, a valuable > communication tool. Like any useful tool, it tends to be used for both > beneficial and nefarious purposes. > > And let's not forget that any network attack, regardless of > the target or > purpose, is a Bad Thing and responsible netizens should do > their part to help > eliminate such abuses. > > I'm done preaching now; I'm sure those who agree with me > didn't need a rehash, > and those that don't are unlikely to change their minds. Just > wanted to > provide a counterpoint to the "since $service has no business > function and > doesn't increase profits, there's no point in supporting it" crowd. > > (not that RAS is necessarily in that crowd; he just happened > to be the first > to respond.) > > Sometimes things are worth doing, even if doing them causes > you some grief. I'm > sure cynicism will eventually overwhelm me and I will realize > that there's no > point in sticking one's neck/network out to provide a useful > service to the > community. > > okay, I'm ready for the flames now. > > > -- > > Richard A Steenbergen <[email protected]> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras > PGP Key ID: 0x138EA177 (67 29 D7 BC E8 18 3E DA B2 46 B3 D8 14 36 FE B6) -- Scott Francis [email protected] [home:] d a r k u n c l e . n e t Systems/Network Manager [email protected] [work:] t o n o s . c o m UNIX | IP networks | security | sysadmin | caffeine | BOFH | general geekery GPG public key 0xCB33CCA7 illum oportet crescere me autem minui
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