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RE: Getting an AS and /18

  • From: Bob K
  • Date: Mon Jul 02 20:02:30 2001

So re-reading Andy's post, I think people have misread it - he doesn't
appear to be asking for help in circumventing ARIN's procedures, he wants
help in following it, if one notes the actual questions he asks:

> > Does ARIN require a ton of SWIPS be present for the customer before
> > they will issue address space?

> > Does anyone know of a person they can talk to at ARIN to help with
> > this process?

But that's just my take on it.

On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Daniel Golding wrote:

> 
> I suspect this is a troll. However, I'll take the bait...
> 
> Why should this organization get any sort of special treatment? Because they
> have been too slack to properly SWIP their blocks? Because they don't feel
> like submitting the proper documentation?
> 
> You posit that the customer genuinely needs the address space. How do we, as
> an Internet community discover that? The only way is documentation.
> 
> I find it rather hard to believe that an organization without an AS,
> qualifies for a /18, based on the published criteria - they did take the
> time to read those, right?
> 
> Andy, you request help to circumvent a process that is far from perfect, yet
> is our best hedge against the unscrupulous. I suppose the best advise for
> them is to hire a consultant who is fully conversant in the procedures for
> obtaining address spaces and an AS number. That's their best bet.
> 
> - Daniel Golding
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of
> > Andy Ellifson
> > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 6:50 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Getting an AS and /18
> >
> >
> >
> > I have a customer that is a cable modem provider.  They submitted the
> > form to request an AS and some address space.  The response from ARIN
> > wanted a ton of documentation.  I understand why ARIN requires all of
> > the documentation.  Does ARIN require a ton of SWIPS be present for the
> > customer before they will issue address space?  This customer genuinely
> > needs the address space but doesn't have the time to gather up all the
> > information that is 'required'.  Does anyone know of a person they can
> > talk to at ARIN to help with this process?
> >
> > -Andy Ellifson
> >
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> 

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