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I'm getting seriously confused here. I thought that the open-relay issue was irelevent to MAPS. That MAPS only black-holed confirmed SPAM sites (a little tougher, but more granular, charter). Further, that it was ORBS that listed open-relay sites specifically, whether they were involved in a spam or not (unacceptable due to punishing potential anti-spammers for proliferating spam that never saw their systems). To me, these are two entirely different charters. If MAPS starts to look like ORBS then I will stop using MAPS. Can someone please clarify? > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Sharp [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 1:04 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stealth Blocking > > > > I would like to make the point that I do run two mail servers > and both a maps approved. > Please don't tell me I don't know how to run a mail server. > Again I am not discussing your > ability , please don't poke fun at me. In fact I had some > trouble with spam on one of them > because someone was signing up a list I use for the owl > networks mailing list. I infact > installed MAPS to see if it helped the problem. It did not > because the user didn't run an > open relay site but rather a no confirmation email list. > Would I be correct to assume they > should be in the MAPS list too? As you can see sometime > spam/annoying emails is not always > sent throught an open relay but sometimes it's a problem with > mailing lists..... What should > maps do, start adding sites that act like this? > > I am just making the point that if MAPS wasn't run by one > person with total control maybe > some of us "retards who don't know what we are doing" would > be a bit more will to support the > effort. > > > Rob > > [email protected] wrote: > > > On Wed, 23 May 2001 14:36:15 EDT, Robert Sharp said: > > > > > And if you use the MAPS list by your choice you are most > definetly filtering out email > > > or traffic for people who are legitimate. I know I have > been filtered before. MAPS is > > > using a very large hammer to kill a not so large bug. > > > > Hmm.. you won't configure it correctly. RFC2505 is "Best > Current Practice". > > > > You get filtered because you won't configure it correctly. > > > > You say you've been filtered *before* because you won't > configure it correctly. > > > > Yes, we *admit* we're using a large hammer. Bouncing your > e-mail didn't > > get your attention. Maybe irate users will get your > attention. But I > > am doubting it. > > -- > > Valdis Kletnieks > > Operating Systems Analyst > > Virginia Tech > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > > Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature > >
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